It’s actually not just for that, certain classes play it for the damage buff aswell. Mage is an example of this, the stun reduction is a nice bonus, but the extra damage on combust is very strong.
Relax, Cutie is rather bias against anything that isn’t a WW, So don’t take it to seriously.
For Rogue and Druids i would rate Nightelf > Orc
orcs been way too broken for way too long.
Kinda wanna play human again
Orc’s can’t be Druids and Rogues on horde have to go Orc.
I’m with Wynter on this subject.
Thats kind of obvious that a Horde char cannot go Nighelf
BuT iF He taKEs ShaDowmelD in a world without factions then N11 >Orc
Nah, even without factions I think Orc is still better for a Rogue overall. The Meld restealth is nice, but the stun reduction and extra damage on their go’s is more valuable.
it’s probably better for Assa Rogue though, Night Elf.
Most of TOP RMx playing ally side.
Does orc racial stack with sephuz and relentless trinkets?
So?
Don’t really get the relevance.
Don’t think Rele works with it anymore.
Yeah maybe but also depend a lot of the enemy u face
They play ally on tournaments also everytime.
Relentless doens’t stack - it was nerfed in BFA.
Thought rogue was a fruit, mb.
A different topic which has any right to be here, because you only play Orc because of Rogues and nothing else really. If you dont have any kind of 20% reduction be it through orc or human rele you will just literally be free food, and best example for that is DH against rogues or rmx in general.
Orc/Rele makes rogues waste important globals in their go which is the entire point of being orc.
But you are a mage player, you are biased and play mostly with rogues so I can understand that this annoys you, and I won’t further discuss this with you, due how absolutely not worthy you are to me as player. gl
at the very least it should be an active so they have to pre-orc stuns and not just be tanks by default
If orc could be druid, hmm. I would choose orc racial most likely
No, because this is talking about a Racial, not a class.
Yeah because it’s not good into anything else, only Rogues stun to kill. In a meta where Ret’s can 1 bang you in a stun, Mages can, WW can, even after that nerf, and so on. It’s more to do with how bursty the game is and having multiple classes that can kill you in a stun rather easily than it being just Rogues, they are one of those class though yes.
Also, DH’s die in a stun to ANYTHING… not just a Rogue, atleast be realistic about it and not try to paint that bias opinion about Rogues all over the thread, thanks.
So because I said it’s for a different topic and I called you bias (which you are by the way, very) that automatically makes me bias? because I play a Mage? That’s some questionable logic by the way, from a player that complains about every class that isn’t a WW.
It’s not news to anyone by the way, so relax… It wasn’t an insult, you’re a very bias person… it’s cool, no one cares. I just don’t want to talk about nerfing a class I know you are very bias towards. It’s a pointless conversation to have.
That cut me real deep, I don’t know how I’ll recover from that one, my entire self worth is tied to what Cutiepie the ego maniac thinks of me as a player.
It’s always so… constructive talking with you Cutie, look forward to the next one.
If you play MA then NE is easily better
dont think its that simple. its really situational. theres lots of situations where you survive only because you’re an orc, but also lots of situations where you die if you can’t get away and don’t have any real way other than step meld. offensive melds can be really insane but super awkward and assumes you havent used it defensively.
Right but you basically cannot vanish with MA as you’re removing possibly your only win condition if you can prevent the rogue restealthing whilst meld gives you that “I can use one of these defensively”. Its similar to the older situation where you could use one and still blind->sap as assa. Its the reason MA is (well imo) one of the most badly designed things to exist; its taking a spell to restealth/remove roots and using it as an offensive. Dunno, maybe grass is always greener since I have neither orc nor NE but imo using MA without having meld feels restricting and relying on others to get the good go. NE also helps against things like maledicts . But yes, I guess orc is also super infuriating since it removes globals.
Racials in overall is an issue, you can nerf Orc racial, but now there’ll just be another that takes it place and the majority will go for that, now we’re back to basically the same situation.
Just get rid of them all.