Hi guys, new player in Retail here. I just want your opinions on the changes for Rogues. I found it really efficient that I could keep rolling the bones for buffs with Adrenaline Rush and using Blade Furry more regularly with it’s two procs. I’m thinking of switching to Subtlety for more effective AoE. Tell me what you guys think.
I played outlaw as my main alt in bfa, tried it in the pre-patch and it feels really clunky . Have no damage meter at moment so can’t comment on the damage but it feels bad to me…
That’s weird, my Outlaw rogue felt the best once the pre-patch hit, i’m also maining rogue. I like that Dreadblades are back mostly…
Was Assassination before but currently maintaining Slice and Dice just clutters the rotation for me. But that’s the case for all three specs now. Not a fan of the change.
You need a better transmog.
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I am confused… 
you are a new player, but you know about the changes to rogues???
Switching to sub for more effective AoE? You don’t get a proper AoE finisher till shadowlands. And spamming shuriken is really bad damage.
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Assa is basically unchanged and imo shouldn’t have slice and dice cos it feels clunky and just something else to keep up for no real reason. Shiv being shiv plus toxic blade is crap - just make them two abilities ffs. The talent changes are lacklustre at best.
Sub changes to ignore armor are nice but otherwise its basically not changed except poisons either. Remove enveloping shadows and shadowy duel imo and bring back a more one dance version of the spec, otherwise you cannot balance it properly. Slice and dice may as well not exist because premed gives it to you anyway and premed is passive, which is boring. Things like blades being off GCD are nice though.
The spec isn’t particularly worth playing seriously atm because none of the specs are balanced around 50 or with traits - for example - you don’t rupture before the go in beta but you have to in pre-patch for nights vengeance so the rotation you’d learn now isn’t even the rotation you will use when shadowlands hits.
Outlaw not checked yet but have heard it feels clunky to play but I’ll reserve judgement til I try it.
Overall - changes are so minor to rogues I’m levelling characters instead since I hate doing it but its relatively fast now. They are basically the same minus QoL things (except maybe outlaw)
Assassination forever 
For me it’s the most interesting spec the rogue has .
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They should rename them to “dreadpillows” though. 
I played outlaw in M+ and any aoe raid encounters with assa for pure ST + PVP
Current state of the game, don’t play either of them when sub easily does double the damage of both. Envenom for reference non crits for 900-1k
your combo generator as sub easily does 1k+ noncrit, closer to the 2k spectrum iirc.
2 out of 3 rogue specs got gutted with pre-patch. Hopefully tuning/covenants will fix that before we hit expan launch
I just realised RTB has no combo points required just energy which is quite nice. I just wish blade furry had more procs or a less cooldown for AoE damage.
Thanks for your reply.
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