Rogue pve sucks

i always die no matter how much buffs i put on,hell i even die with the evasion spell on.I cant even pull more than 1 mob and when i do i die to that too.The vial also sucks it barely heals you.Not gonna even talk about the aoe on rogues,it sucks compared to any other class.

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Well, first thing, how many mobs on what lvl (mobs lvl) you’ve pulled? It was on rogue lvl 95?

Second thing, rogues are never ment to be some aoe gods or hard as steel class. As a rogue you don’t want to pull everything in the neighborhood like dh or monk, or dk. You want to sneak pass, or take it out one by one or little group by little group. Or sap one, blind second one, while kill the third one.

Rogues are not really fighting in a straight forward way, even Outlaw, even it may be the most straight forward of all three specs.

If it will bother you too much, consider swaping on dh, dk or monk for example.

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i just changed from assassination to outlaw, and damn outlaw is way better.
i pulled 2 mobs on assassination (lvl 95 mobs)(my level 95) and barely made it out alive from those 2 mobs.

Anyways thanks for the answer!

No problem. If you will stuck again, check out wowhead or icy-veins sites for leveling guide for rogues.
Good luck, and I hope you still stick around with rogues :wink:

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Outlaw is a good choice.

Pull multiple mobs > Blade Flurry > Adrenaline Rush (if required) > cackle.

When I levelled my rogue, I thought like a rogue. Not like a plate wearing barbarian that runs into small armies and whirlwinds them down with massive clubs.
So, if there was more than one mob, I’d sap one, and work on my primary target. Once that was dead I could reset and work on the next.
I did try Outlaw, but the damage just wasn’t there compared to assassination. Never really liked wasting my combo points on RNG bones either, but that’s just me.
Also, as long as you keep your gear up to date, applying DoTs to all targets will burn them down pretty quickly. It’s obviously a tougher play style than just cleaving targets, but I think that’s what I enjoy about it.

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It doesn’t work this way nowadays I know (and certainly not with my gear at present) but way back in the day, it was amazing what you could pull off in PvP with CC etc.

I mean, I’m going way back here, back to when I was an avid gamer and not a tired old 30-something who can’t discern a*se from elbow at the best of times, but back then I could regularly tackle 2-3 other players simultaneously as Combat.

Especially warriors. Warriors could ruin pretty much everything until they met a Combat Rogue :slight_smile:

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It almost sounds like I made you nostalgic, so apologies for that! Oh yes, I’ve tried to do the newest content on a fairly low geared rogue before, and it’s definitely less forgiving than some other classes.
I’d literally go through an entire PvP rotation of stun locking a beetle just to take it down, coming out of it with 25% health, while my Warlock just burnt 3 of them down with DoTs as the Voidwalker was like “I got you bro”.

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In the current climate of mass pulls and AoE’ing all mobs like dust during leveling, the playstyle of the rogue seems merely a flavour to stealth and cc. I think the more dangerous the world becomes, the more valuable stealth and cc becomes. This was especially so during Vanilla and TBC era.
Who knows though, in Shadowlands The Maw is supposed to be that dangerous place, where our CC and Stealth could play a vital role.

The title should be renamed ‘‘Rogue solo pve world sucks’’. And while I agree that it does, I think the identity of the rogue shouldn’t have it any other way.
When compared to DH/Warrior etc, where you can literally pull infinite amount of armies of npc’s and do a /dance and still survive easily, it just fits the fantasy of the those classes.

I think what made it somewhat worse for Rogues is the removal of the insane amounts of evasive stats during legion adding so much dodge trough our artifact weapon talents. I’l be honest and say that I do miss that quite alot, the current state of the game the rogue does not feel evasive at all, and neither does Agility raise our dodge so that aspect of the RPG element has been neutered.

I remember during Vanilla, (tbh I don’t know how it is in classic currently) the warrior had more physical raw power to stay toe to toe with elite enemies in the open world, but due to lack of evasive skills or cc/stuns in the end it evened out and was quite balanced. the rogue had the edge when it came to multiple enemies due to Sap/Blind/Preperation/Vanish, the warrior with sweeping strikes cleave and whirlwind could do it balls to the wall. The difference between an equally geared rogue and warrior was not that excessively large though as it currently is.
Most likely because the game is only balanced with mythic + and raids in mind, not for leveling or solo power. Could be that Torghast changes a little bit of this current ‘‘meta’’.

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Oh, and I think combat rogue in classic, tbc or even wotlk were most squishy (ok, lot of damage, but the survival skill was lacking the most). When recuperate and later crimson vial took place… maan, that was like a dream come true :slight_smile:

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Very true!

I spent an inordinate amount of time bandaging my Rogue in Vanilla :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I see a meme made of it already :smiley:

As another tired old 30 something with a toon older than both his kids I can second that. Evasion, dismantle, combat readiness, armor piercing, stepping charge, shivving enrages man…they were the good days

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Ha, yes! The toon I’m posting on here is from launch, and therefore older than both my kids combined :joy:

How time flies eh?

Indeed lol. 15 years is a long time :slight_smile:

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Here is a third old 30 something :slight_smile: Unfortunetly I was not so lucky to afford to play on retail, like you guys. I’ve known WoW from “other” sources ;), from the late Classic to the Cataclysm. I play on retail since MoP. But my tune is also older than my kid, because I don’t have one :wink:

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Do you guys ever find yourself on WoW in the wee hours, wondering what the hell you are doing with your life?

It’s a constant inner battle for me :joy: on one hand I have a million other, far more important things to deal with. On the other, nothing relaxes me and allows me to decompress as much as playing WoW for an hour or so here and there.

I originally came back because I needed some kind of escapism. I’ve been working in hospitals throughout the whole you-know-what thing and it has been absolutely brutal. I just needed to focus on something else for a while.

Well, soon enough I was hooked again. After years and years away (missed everything from Cata onwards, brief spell of PvP-ing during said expansion aside).

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Haha, housework and actual work sometimes take a back seat to “just getting this dagger” lol. Yeah, it’s good like although life has changed a lot in 15 years WoW and these toons have stayed with me

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I have one simple rule: if I play and at the same time I neglect some important things in life, it means I must play less :slight_smile: (or do these things first and then play). Besides it dosen’t matter if I play 1h or 3h a day. If you like spend your free time in that way, and you do other things necessary to happy life (name here yours), why change it?

Besides nice gameplay, after all these years the nostalgia is strong in WoW. Sometimes I’m happy to even see some long time no see lands, visit some raids / dungs or to listen music from there :slight_smile:

It looks like the subject has changed from Rogue that sucks in PvE xD

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Nahh it’s never that bad I don’t think. I did my time spending 4-5 hrs a day in MC and Kara and ICC like…i’m never going back to that. I do only as much as I want now, which is pretty liberating :slight_smile:

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