Why do you think its best race/class combo? I am really curious
Because of his epic survival kit. Stoneform clears instantly all bleeds, diseases but mainly all poisons which gives you extreme advantage against rogues and their wound poison. In arena this is huge, you can heal up very quickly with poisons down. Also +10% armor
Chastise gives you another survival option, you snare the rog/war/whatever, walk behind a pillar, or you donât even have to do that always and heal up, you can also snare rog/other class when your swd is on cd and you cant death blind, or just get some range, posibilites are endless really
And of course desperate prayer, strong instant selfheal
Dwarf disci priest is the best for pvp because of his sustain. Undead only breaks fear, sleep or charm every two minutes, but thatâs just 1 cc in 2 minutes, as a disci priest you often heal your partners with instant heals so itâs not a big problem to los fears etc., actually YOU are often being focused by the enemy, not your partners, so all you have to do is survive and the dwarf is best at that
Undead also has a racial dot but it deals low damage, has a cooldown and costs 1100 mana so itâs kind of useless for a disci priest. You can use inner focus for the dot but thatâs like wasting 1 of your cds just to use a weak dot⌠most of the time itâs not even worth using it. Compare that to the survival kit of a dwarf and the fact that priests are usually getting focused in arena and you have a clear winner.
Tbc pvp is same like on retail, if you have OP class you winâŚrouge like on retail can get IK on open
i dont know why ppl soo hate retail pvp when is tbc pvp is same, like on all expansions
wow dont have balanced pvp never in history
Tbh i think you really underestimate the power of wotf
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Every high rating player will tell you this, especially dp mains.
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I mean, we kinda told you this, but you all just said âRogues are badâ because Reddit told you so.
What we said
âRogues will dominate PvP, theyâre unkillable 1v1, the only chance is if youâre a PvE geared tank feral and even then your odds are 30%ish to winâ
What you said
âMelee in TBC lol Rogues are trashâ
What we also said.
âRogues are invaluable in PvE, expose armor is one of the best buffs in game, and their scaling T6 onwards makes them viable to be the top damage in the entire game on single target, even competing with huntersâ
What you said
âMelee in TBC lol, rogues benched 'cus badâ.
You kinda reap what you sow.
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they are bad in pve
I observed an arms warrior and an equally geared rogue duel outside Orgrimmar. The warrior came out on top more than the rogue did.
Rogues arenât invincible.
the rogue was just bad, rogues can kite warrs with bleeds, its retarded
rogues pretty much destroy this game pvp wise
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Warriors have a gazillion ways to close gaps, and they will, if they know what theyâre doing.
no they dont lmao its common knowledge a rogue can just kite a warr in 5-8 deadzone, check pshero doing it in every fight against warriors and they cant do anything.
Well at least there is a trade off then
Those are bad warriors. You simply take a step back and intercept into hamstring and rend. Easy win.
if they take a step back the rogue takes a step forward, they have 70% crippling so they move faster.
warriors are easy peasy for rogues, theres no debate really
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Grenades exist. Lulherald exists. A mortal strike and an overpower takes away half the rogues health.
There is no doubt the only true counter to a good rogue is a better rogue. But a good frost mage, arms warrior or sl/SL warlock can win against rogue when resilience is a thing.
EDIT: Better yet, wait for Wrath. Thatâs when rogues become a good class instead of the best class in PvP.
Sorry but I donât remember this game being such dogcrap in og TBC, maybe it was just me.
Levelling my alt druid - 66 moonkin. Iâm in moonkin form. Pretty good geared with outland blues/some greens and naxx gear mix.
65 rogue opens on me when Iâm fighting a mob. I die 100-0 during kidney after the initial cheap shot.
Playing my shadow priest. I am fully r14 geared from vanilla. A random monka rogue from a useless trash guild on my server opens up on me. I die in 2.1 seconds in shadowform with full stacks of inner fire, even talented into imp. inner fire in disc tree. (so before the first cheap shot even ends)
I know rogues were a good 1v1 class but this is completely dogcrap Iâm sorry. I played OG TBC and did way more pvp than classic, donât remember their damage being this broken.
Probably because we are playing an abomination of a game with 2.4.3 talents and skills and 2.0 gear with no resillience.
And then, the resist rates are also abhorrent in classic. Not talking about CloS. Fully hit capped, most equal level pvp enemies resist 30% of spells if not more. Consider myself lucky if I can ever land a spell on anyone.
None will QQ about these because every kid already boosted an undead rogue and are really happy with this Iâm sure. Because just looking around in orgrimmar all I can see is undead rogues and nothing else.
But if there will ever be a change to this game, this is what people should be crying about, not merc mode, lol. Whoever designed this class in pvp should never ever find a job until the end of his life because he is dangerous to the entire society.
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Canât imagine you made this comment with anything less than a troll face.
Rogues are still gonna be on top of the food chain with or without resilience. Its gonna be slightly worse than it is now, but make no mistake its still an OP class.
Game is not balanced for 1v1 so any complains about lossing duel to rogue is waste of words.
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No theyâre not.