But somehow 35% damage reduction on a leather melee class was OP. NERF these abilities by 50% like you did for DH you idiots.
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They should remove either vanish, cloak or dodge. There is too much toolkit for rogues. While we are having half of it people cry about it over. One class shouldnât have these amount of ccâs and defensives + burst.
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Comparing DH to rogue survivability is a joke right now, squishiest class in the game.
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Blows my mind how Rogue can get Vanish, Evasion, Cloak AND a 6 second stun on a 20 sec cd but DH was considered too tanky in BFA.
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Yep blizz devs only play rogue and their favorit class wont be touched
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Srsly blows my mind⊠by far most ***** desicion ever made in gaming history⊠waiting till next buff/nerf to see what happens if i see no chances for us dh im done with this game because its gettin to far ⊠what were they thinkin ? Hey lets nerf dh . But rog has 100%⊠Yes lets nerf DH!
our class is a joke rn
Im also 100% sure they gonna nerf us on next patch⊠just because, mark my words!
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Its ironic when the ââslow and heavy JUGGERNAUTââ Frost dk is less tanky than said classes 
If Rogues can one shot people in one opener, then let them play like they used to, atleast make them squishier than frost DK. Rogues nowadays run around like mongos and still manage to survive.
Vanishing, invulnerable one shotting, stealth, its ridiculous.
But Blizzard have a thing for always listening to crying Mages and Hunters on the forums
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I have never understood that rogue has 10 seconds immunity on 2 min cd? I mean why 10 seconds?
That cd is basically stronger than any defensives in the game even from bubble
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Are you trolling or actually serious? You spam DH forums like there is no tomorrow crying about how bad it is, having zero game knowledge, yet you act like your opinions with zero arguments to base it on, are above the others. And if you ever played the class, you would have known that evasion isnt exactly the best def ability, because it can be easily outplayed.
You should probably actually check wowhead or try playing the class if you dont understand it. If you talk about evasion, then you still get hit by certain abilities, you still take full dmg from behind or in a stun. So no, this is far from an immunity. DH Blurr ability is 50% dodge and 20% dmg reduction from all sources, that cant be outplayed with ONLY 1 MINUTE CD. I dare to say that this is way better defense ability than evasion.
Why dont you get the facts straight? You just lack the knowledge, same as the topic creator and all you do is unnecessary emo that affects low knowledge ppl.
DH was meta for all pve and pvp in the previous seasons. They are still strong, but they lost the balance lottery. Blizzard decided to not make them n1 meta class in every aspect again. You are the best tank in the game actually, so just adapt or reroll.
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I have 2,3-2,7+ xp with all the classes mentioned, so I dont see a reason to play it any further. You as a DH have 2 stuns that bypass evasion and nullify it completely during that stun. You are comparing a cooldown burst window class with a class that has constant pressure and infinite mobility to support it.
Why all of you here who argue about nonsense are from 0 to 1750xp gods? A vast majority of you dont even play pvp, so why you keep crying this much?
The state of pvp DH is barelly a concern to ppl like the topic creator or others who defend his pile of lies.
Just looking at the profiles of ppl crying here makes me think this is just a bad social experiment.
For example the guy you are defending:
Iâm not defending anyone, just stating a fact, and the fact is that dh pvp this season has survival same as s.it, also we have pressure only when we have all cd avaliable, including the hunt, tempest and meta/demonic on, good luck without it! The hunt is a godsend if timed well⊠but thatâs it, every class has some form of retarded dmg
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Your class is fine. There are just few more retarded classes out there causing issues to everybody else. Throwing overexaggerated out of reality arguments will not help anybody.
Please enlighten me which abilities rogue takes damage during evasion? You mean pre evasion dots ? Assuming no cloak of shadows?
How is not blur cant be outplayed while evasion can explain it?
Yes dh was meta for bfa so what what does it have to with anything rogue being tier s pvper since you know it existed?
You clearly love rogues so much having all the cc in the world with high damage and great defensives easy escape mechanics. But i found having everything without real counter play very toxic.
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No I dont love rogues, no I dont hate DHs, Im just realistic while you are not.
Read what evasion does and read what your blurr does. You will see the obvious difference. I already explained it thoroughly, Im not gonna do it again.
You explained nothing, i dont see blur being on lower cd with lower dodge chance and irrelavent damage reduction being stronger than evasion at all.
You have your opinion and i have mine, i dont see you are being more realistic it is just your opinion nothing more.
Besides you can make the argument that bubble is useless since it can be shattered. Yes sure a few ccs ignore evasion great evasion is still very strong.
So my point stands if you dont have the tools up it is an 10 sec immunity on 2 min cd.
Get behind bro doesnt make it most of the time too.
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Did you try dh this season? Sorry but if you multiclass glad then explain the dh numbers on arena? Iâm not gonna hear âall the good dh left itâ, and even if it was the truth there is obviously a reason for that, explain why is that. Also, Iâm not saying all the other classes are overpowered mind me, I actually like the fast paced pvp, Iâm saying dh is currently not that fine. I hope i made it clear⊠now my opinion is that currently dh is the only balanced class, now I know itâs impossible and wouldnât want every other class nerfed to ground⊠so itâs time to bring the underperforming classes on par (pvp wise). You know itâs really simple, add some effect on the abilities that would work only vs players. Still, even if this was the case the fundamental problem of dh remains⊠there are billions of threads on that. We are not asking for the moon, just a little survival and a little damage tuning, you can even nerf the hunt for that I donât care⊠more than that and a rework is needed. Those are facts, now⊠is this still whining?
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FâŠk⊠without the hunt I feel like a fly 
With Blur you can dodge from behind (or at least you could, havenât checked if thatâs still the case) and comes with a damage reduction with half the cd of Evasion.
Evasion only works in an 180° cone infront of the rogue, and might even be less than that since Blizzard changed what counts as âbehindâ the target back in WoD.
Even with just a tiny bit of lag (20ms) you can just run around the rogue and a lot of melee hits will go through evasion. Rogues can even completely counter other rogueâs evasion by shadow stepping and immediately Kidney shot them (stun). Since Shadow Step puts them behind the other rogue.
As a Ret pala main i often donât even notice when rogues pop evasion or cloak since my abilities either canât be dodged or count as melee damage even though they deal magic damage and thus go through Cloak of Shadows. If i remember right, Templarâs Verdict refund any holy power spent if the ability gets dodged. So i can just spam it until it connects through lag.
Against Demon Hunters this isnât the case though. Because Blur allows the DH to dodge from behind and when my attacks do connect, they deal less damage than they would do to a rogue.
Unless the rogue used feint, in which case, lol. 15 second cd shield wall is perfectly balanced.
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If stun was dr-free I would understand your points but rogues can go around the whole arena during 10 sec, itâs very hard for us to counter evasion, I think they are dodging our FE stun too because itâs physical and you canât move because of rogueâs slow if you can manage to stun you try to go behind rogue for 2-3 sec which meanwhile the stun ends.
Rogue and shadow priest are much tankier right now than havoc, a leather melee class with no stealth. You donât need to be an expert to know that itâs bs.
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