Hello, I’m a dh main and I play arms healer in 3s only I really have problem in 3s against rogue, mage & healer most of the time we lose this matchup even if we get our opener on rogue or healer we still get fu**ed up by rogue.
I wanna know how we can win the game and any advice will be helpful.
Hard to say without video but in general people loose cause of few points:
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they position terribly bad and close to each other, so mage can double db>ring or rogue can cheapshot kidney all 3 target super fast that you don’t have time to react.
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they don’t react to cd traded or they overreact, it’s hard to know when you can die and when you are fine especially at low cr but if you press too much you will loose.
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they don’t stop any cc, again it’s hard when you are low exp but your only chance is to cut their cc chain which is doable with a good positioning and know when they want to do a go.
Ofc it dépend on your comp, some got easier time and some it’s harder but it’s definitely doable and easier to deal with than jungle for example.
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Rogues are just OP due to infinite cc, infinite restealths and bursts every 30 seconds. Struggling vs them the most in 2v2.
One thing that helps slightly is darkness legendary + desperate instincts, I can live one stun longer then.
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Rogue aren’t broken, just when they play with mage they allows them to run but they are super squishy.
Plus they can’t kill anything randomly and they need clean setup to kill somebody.
I understand it’s not fun to sit in cc but rogue setup is the most telegraph thing and super easy to see it coming, also when they press cheap shot they loose 1 global to do dmg.
The only annoying part is the conduit Cloaked in Shadows. I think that the problem is Mage not Rogue. Unless you have spammable purge and even then it’s 3 buffs you can’t Mage so Rogue doesn’t have to peel much and leave stealth.
If they use shadow dance then I become more squishy then them.
Yeah, the thing is - it’s coming every 30 seconds so we’ll run out of defensives/trinkets and then somebody dies. Catching rogue impossible and catching mage impossible, killing mage in time impossible too.
Outside of rogue/mage I have no problem with any mage comp. But any rogue comp is almost as annoying as rogue/mage, due to infinite cc.
If Mage would be squishier like it always was Rogue would have to peel and leave stealth more.
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Yes. It’s a 2v2 game,not a 1v2 for 1.5 minutes until the cooldowns come back again.
It’s usually 2v1 because rogue/mage can easily perma-cc one of us, forever.
Said everyone ever
What prevent you from using your cc to prevent cc chain?
You know that for 20sec you are in Dr so you can do stuff and before de are fresh you can pre wall or cage something etc…
Not like you can’t do anything but if on your side you just wait doing nothing ofc it’s hard
You can dispel sheep from your teammate
Idk, them having 3x more cc? Them starting chain from stealth?
When I’m on Dr rogue is in stealth and mage at full health with shields. Impossible to catch rogue because mage, impossible to catch/kill mage because rogue.
Sometimes rogue is very stupid and I managed to break his stealth, but he proceeds to stun and burst me anyway (and often successful).
Reverse magic is 10yd range so I need to be near healer.
Healer is usually not near because that would allow rogue to do double stun.
Also I’m usually stunned when healer is sheeped, and if I dare to trinket->felrush->reversesheep I’ll get restunned and die in dr stun with them using all cds.
Big part of problem is that if I don’t trinket I die, and if I trinket I die.
U have troubles against r/m?
Then play with a druid since a decent druid wouldnt let himself getting sheeped and is hard to open on due to stealth
I need mindgames though.
Wow, how did the Venthyr DH I faced on 2.6 last week even won games then, since he was playing with a Druid just like you’ve been told ? Could it be that you aren’t good enough if you can’t kill without a Mindgames ?
There is no way dude, you got the best mobility in the game and strong dmg.
Your healer can dispell you and use his tools too.
No idea, ask him?
Actually, I know why - because he doesn’t need to fight overgeared people that won’t die, so less need for mindgames. I’ll check this theory once I’m 2.1k+.
Shadowstep and blink and NF blink are way superior to fel rushes.
Someone here still plays 9.0 and does not know… Cloaked in shadows lasts 4 sec and then the rogue has no shield.
Good try!!
I guess since you still play 9.0 then rogue crit legendary is an issue for you.
Name a class that has been nerfed over and over more than a Sub rogue in SL??