RP as Tyrande - second version

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Hello Everyone.

I have been wondering, for a while now about BfA narrative and I would like to ask the help of the RP community.

The exercise is difficult, so I understand if it’s impossible.

I like to get inside my character, a Blood Elf who grew with a human girl together, they became friends and they still meet even through there’s a war going.

This is to explain why she isn’t s normal Blood Elf, she can see both sides of the war and feel extremely uncomfortable, with her actions, even through she is a soldier and has to do what she’s told to.

In reality it’s this character and my alliance alt.

I can’t RP as Tyrande as I don’t have a deep knowledge of Night Elf lore.

But through the eyes of my character, I can see a leader who was suspicious of the Horde at the beginning, trusted at some point in time in the Horde to cooperate, with her in Legion, but was betrayed on BfA.

It’s said that next expansion, will be Legion like. Everyone unites for a greater good.

Now how that will work for Tyrande ?
Through what my character as seen, in the Burning of Teldrassil and the Darkshore warfront, where she is asked to kill and resurrect Night Elf soldiers, the only possible outcome, she sees in Tyrande’s mind is:

  • Kill every Horde soldier,member in Kalimdor and put their heads on pikes on top of a burning Ogrimar for a reminder of what happens when people mess with the Night Elfs.
  • The key word on my idea is: trust.
    Once it’s gone, it never returns.
    Thing’s can’t be erased no matter what justifications you come with, even if it’s old Gods related.

My question again, is this interpretation too radical ?

Because BfA and WoT events remind me of a story I read when I was young.

The story of a old sailor who told lies about his incredible deeds when he was young, which everyone at the bar laughed when he left.
One day he told an epic story of a storm who caught him on the sea no matter how much he struggled, he couldn’t save himself.
One more persistent sailor asked him how he got out. He had to admit … He died … Basically he admitted he was telling a lie and that was his end.

That’s what WoT looks to me.

What’s your opinion ?

Thanks for your attention.
Cheers.

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This is the most confusing thing I’ve ever read…

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Sorry than.

I will make a TL;DR version of it.

Considering that next expansion, will have the Horde and the Alliance working together again:

How do you think Tyrande will accept working with the Horde again.

How would you act on her situation ?

A) Never forget, or forgive the Horde, for what they did in Teldrassil.

B) Forgive them and move on.

Thanks for your attention.
Cheers.

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Never forgive them off course.

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To be honest that’s what I thought.

I wonder how Blizzard will write the next expansion, where both factions have to work together, after the burning of Teldrassil.

That’s why I believe they wrote themselfs in to a corner this time.

Cheers.

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Or it could be this war actually continues on and they don’t, but each side instead sees internal change fixing their own problems?

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Hopefully, you are right.

But it has been debated on the story forum that ActivisionBlizzard resets the plot each expansion.

For example, there is no mention of the Broken Island event in this expansion, neither the Mag’Har Orcs were mentioned in the Legion expansion, until now.

Which makes me belive in a WoD Grom scenario.
He was supposed to be the raid boss yet everyone bond together as nothing happened, by the end …

Cheers.

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The Broken Isle is not only mentioned a few times but there’s a few quests where you go to parts of it. Legion had you backtracking to parts of Wrath and also had some Cataclysm stuff as well as Burning Crusade. Most of the expansions have fed back into previous expansions.

The plots don’t reset the ongoing plot, Blizzard just don’t want to re-tread too much ground that was already covered. WoD is the exception here cause it was rushed.

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Thank you.

I made a thread a couple of weeks ago in the story forum:

Which I was replied:

That’s where I got that idea from .

Cheers.

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Well, Blizzard did say this Expansion would see the end of the Faction War. They’re obviously not going to wipe one Faction or the other Out.

There is another option that you need to consider. If Saurfang, or Baine, replaces Sylvanas, and makes Peace with the Horde, Then Tyrande may have no -choice- but not to wage war on the Horde.

Her people alone cannot wage war on a whole faction. Even if Genn continues to support her, they simply are not enough to break away from the Alliance and fight the Horde alone. Essentially it might not be a case of her not -wanting- to kill the Horde, but a case of that she -can’t- kill the Horde.
It all depends on how BfA ends I suppose, which we don’t know yet.

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I really can’t see BfA ending (for Sylvanas) any other way than somewhat like how WoD ended for Garrosh… That cruel banshee has face-slapped enemies as well as allies, seemingly without regard for consequences, ever since… Well, Teldrassil at least, if not earlier.

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But what if… Sylvanas IS Garrosh in disguise?

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I can.

I can’t see her holding on to Warchief, heck no, but she’ll be deposed, rather than killed. Sadly her fanbase is too large and too vocal, now I can see -Nathanos- getting killed off, but not Sylvanas.

What form that takes, remains to be seen…

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Come to think of it, I don’t remember exactly how WoD ended for Garrosh, other than him not being warchief anymore :thinking:

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There was a fight with Thrall somewhere at some point, don’t know when or where it happened and I haven’t seen it in game

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I did that quest in my Alliance alt.

At some point while fighting the iron Horde, we get to a place where Garrosh is stationed with his man, if I am not mistaken. (Did it in February 2017)
Basically, we are with Thrall group, we are about to clash again with Garrosh group, but Thrall steps in to avoid a blood bath.

Basically he challenges Garrosh to a Mak’gora.
During the fight, they have an argument.

  • Thrall states how Garrosh is not worth of his diceased father Grom Hellscream legacy.
    Since Grom sacrificed himself to kill Mannoroth.
  • Garrosh on the other hand, states that Thrall was the one who made him Warchief, he left him to pick up his pieces, he abandoned him.

Garrosh being younger and a warrior, manages to get the upper hand on the fight.

That’s when Thrall had enough and summons the elements.
First a earth element that grabs him, than a thunder that strikes him down.
That’s the end of Garrosh.

But before dying, Garrosh tells Thrall that he made him in to what he had become.
Thrall replies, that Garrosh did it to himself.

The problem was, in that Mak’gora, I think they were supposed to fight bare handed.
Thrall basically, broke the rules.
That’s when the elements ceases to answer to him.

Interesting point: sometimes in the story forum this is brought up to ask: why didn’t the Horde Paladins and Druids lost their powers, when Teldrassil was burned.
After all a crime against, the nature and people was committed.

I hope that helped.
Cheers.

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Almost. He asks them to -resume- their Mak’gora, the first of which was interrupted by the Scourge in WotLK. They use the same rules set. as agreed at the time.

Garrosh is actually older, weirdly…

Nah, That Mak’gora was fought under the same rules as their original one, so it was basically “Whatever you got, you can use”. There are no set rules to a Mak’gora, magic has been used in them before, actually no, the one rule is that the -Challenger- calls the rules, but if they choose unfair rules, those are dishonourable and the Challenged person can refuse without dishonour.

Thrall broke no rules, the elements of Azeroth don’t care what happened on Draenor, they’re not the same Elements, as we learn when Thrall first arrives in Draenor. He stopped being able to call to them because he doubted -himself-.

Why would they?

I mean the Scarlet Paladins kept their powers whilst murdering hapless people. Arthas kept his whilst putting an entire city to the sword.

Teldrassil wasn’t a crime against nature. The Crime against nature was Fandral Staghelm creating it in the first place out of selfish motives.
Teldrassil is actually pretty Unnatural, which is probably why it was corrupted, and Nozdormu noped out of it and went “I am -not- blessing that thing”

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I thought they abandoned him for using them honorlessly or something in the fight?

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Nah, because he didn’t use Azeroths Elements in that fight, it was a different time and planets Primals. Unlike the Burning Legion, The Elements do only exist on one planet at a time, So the Primals on a different planet and space time continuum know what happened, but the Elementals on Azeroth do not.

Besides, they don’t care about mortal ‘rules’ or they would have removed his powers during Thrall vs Garrosh part 1, which the Scourge interrupted, as he used his shamanic powers then.

Not that using magic in Mak’gora is unusual or forbidden. It was basically just a plot device to give the character the Doomhammer in Legion…:slight_smile:

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A simple google made it clear it was one common theory the elements abandoned him, how it can go when you take theories as facts. Always thought it was odd, but Blizzard doesn’t shy away from odd so I didn’t think more of it but it makes more sense it was because he doubted himself.

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