Was wondering, druidism has/is a thing of worshiping the wild gods right? And Cenarion was the one to teach Malfurion and the night elves and so on. Would a worgen druid/harvest witch who were saved and taught by the Cenarion circle during the cataclysm be able to be more of a lone wolf (pun intended) and perhaps worship another wild god? Not that I hate Cenarion but he’s so mainstream XD (Sry)
It isn’t mandatory to worship any of the Wild Gods to be a functioning druid, but your worgen OC can revere whatever ancient or entity you like.
Worgens have a list of things from Goldrinn/Wild Gods, The Moon, and the Light - that they revere.
For a worgen druidism is first and foremost the expansion of their curse. You can revere Goldrinn, other wild gods, maybe Elune, or still cling to the Light church in terms of faith, it’s secondary to the spiritual discipline needed to keep your instincts and the influence of the Emerald Dream in check.
Here’s where I once again slap myself for losing my big document of compiled Old Ways lore from npc gossip, quest texts and more.
My own worgen, who’s not a druid, mostly clings to his Light worship, but he does have a healthy dose of respect for Goldrinn as well since contracting the curse.
Usually when he departs, he says something along the lines of “Light and Goldrinn guide your steps.”
Worgen druids are kind of interesting when comparing them to the druids of other races because it’s not necessarily as ingrained into their culture as much as it is for the other druidic races. Night elves and tauren both follow Cenarion teachings (albeit in different ways but it’s from the same origin), trolls follow the loa, and while Harvest Witches are analogous to druids - I think they’re less faith-driven. I might be wrong, maybe they do get their powers from revering nature but the vibe i’ve always gotten from them is “farmers but magic, and they can turn into birds.”
Where worgen differ (harvest witches maybe or maybe not excluded) is that druidism isn’t something they necessarily sought, as much as it can be a thing that happened to them. I think the reason worgen can be druids is because the form is a result of druidism, rather than worgen druids being raised in a society that holds druidic ideals.
As said above, Goldrinn reverence is an obvious choice - he’s the deity that the form is derived from, but I’d also say that really any of the Kaldorei wild gods (Malorne, Aessina, Aviana, Ursol/Ursoc, Ashamane) are probably also good choices, given that we see a pretty significant and long-lasting bond between the kaldorei and Gilneans after Gilneas is destroyed (and also Teldrassil is).
So yeah - lots of options!
While your post is factual, you made a spelling mistake so it doesn’t count anymore!
I mean, would it be farfetched for a Light user to see Goldrinn as a “Avatar of the Light” akin to the Naaru? Since Anduin and Velen both see other forms of magic as just another way to “serve the Light”!
They’re both wrong, though.
Thats why I said “for a Light user” and not everygnome.
I mean any magic could be seen as a /or another way to serve your belief if the use of it is working toward say the lights view/goal (Of course people might not agree and say that the means do not justify the end “In a sense”). For example Illidan fought the legion using their own powers. Forsaking both Arcane and Druidism for Fel if I’m correct.
To add to this, they have a reverence for the natural cycle and seasons, coincidentally appropriate for agriculture in their unique understanding.
The Old Ways is the old human faith, the nature worship that predates the Light. What they lacked was a formal structure like the cenarion circle, rather gathering for these seasonal celebrations and providing their wisdom and healing where needed. Being turned worgen just happened to amplify their connection to the wilds.
If they endured enough head trauma, there’s gold in his name which is therefore of the Holy Light in its golden radiance.
My worgen, respects and are grateful to The wild god Goldrinn, but do not ‘follow’ him.
His only real connation to the wild god is the worgen curse.
His druid magic is more based in the practice of "Harvest Witch / ‘The Old Ways’’ from Gilneas, that his wife thought him - the curse only made this stronger, and he later sought out a group of druids up in Ashenvale to help them with some things, which thought him more potent Nature magic akin to druids.
I do belive you can, pretty much go with this however you want, because it is a worgen
While this site is a brief and perhaps not accurate, it’s easy to get into the subject and theme of it, if you want a different approach than the ‘usual’ night elf path.
Sorry to further this thread with more questions XD. Loved all of your answers and discussions. One thing I’m not really clear on in the lore is the Harvest-Witches some sources say they were practically shunned for their pagan ways but also being a vital part in making food after wall was built. I guess both things can be true (Views may depend on the time I guess) But we also have Genn Greymane talking about that he was reminded how a Harvest Witch shapeshifted or what not. So the King must have seen one, Is he okay with Harvest Witches and the new Worgen Druids? Cheers
Playing a worgen druid is like having a fursona within fursona.
Not only can you turn into a werewolf, but that werewolf can turn into a bear, cat, owlkin, etc.
Before the Wall was build, and before Food became a problem, since they could’ve traded with other Kingdoms and probably got a part of their food from villages and outposts in Silverpine, the Harvest Witches were, indeed, shunned due to their use of the “Old Ways”. Since the Holy Light had become the dominant Faith across the Seven Kingdom and the whole of the Eastern Kingdoms. (Akin to how the ancient belief of the Romans, Vikings, etc was replaced with Christianity!)
Obviously everything changed when the Wall was build and Gilneas shut itself off from the rest of the Eastern Kingdom, food became a problem and then people became more open to the use of the Harvest Witches and their Old Ways since it helped them keep hunger at bay, grow food faster and help keep the Kingdom running!
So yes, at first they were shunned due to their belief in the Old Ways, but this quickly changed when they actually needed them.
Genn Greymane is a fine example of this himself.
They were a bit of an outcast, correct!
Remember this change is something that happened over several years.
But once the Kingdom fell on hard times and hunger settled in their abilities started to be welcomed due to food production in a land who offer quite little in terms of crops.
It’s a hardly land, rocky and full of cliff’s, the weather on avarage is down pour and misty, which is great for grass fields and herding sheeps but less so for crops.
Moridunum, I think did the full context wonderfully.
Look at it as a ‘‘Beggar’s can’t be choosers’’ situation for the kingdom.
Gilneas are made of hardy people, and defiantly look out for their own, so I imagine it was not too difficult of a choice in the end.
My worgen often talks about that, and mention how important it is to help one another, and make sure people are looked after, referring to Gilnean history.
Consider it a subtle drop of lore in character.
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