Everywhere i go i see people from guilds Патриоты Украины (Patriots of Ukraine) and Паляниця (Palyanitsya ukraininan bread).
Yeah, usually in the same “premade” in AV, farming people on graveyard
They sure have options to play on eu, same as russians.
Wow classic came out before all of this, you think it’s that easy for people to leave their characters and guilds and move to eu? Also there are much more russian speaking ukrainians than english speaking.
Doesn’t really concern me on which server ppl choose to play, if they have the option to choose or whether they choose to move or not. I am not telling anybody on which server to play. Do they wanna play on EU servers? Great, we will welcome everybody, as long as they follow the rules. Just like we welcomed millions of actual refugees in our countries. Do they wanna play on RU servers? Great.
But you want to treat them the same as evil russians just because they play on the same server.
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And? The core issue here is that one server in the whole BG group has an advantage in the matchmaking process over others. If German and French servers had the same advantage, while the general English servers not, I would also want that advantage to be removed, fair is fair. The RU server is still mostly comprising of Russians, and they simply don’t mix well with EU ppl. This is not rocket science. It’s been the case in every MP game since the dawn of MP gaming, way before this bloody war. The war simply makes it worse, since it’s not just a Russian war against only Ukraine.
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You justify a war cause of other countries bad actions?
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It’s still impossible to form premade despite all you think.
All our advantage are based on people thinking it’s premade and leaving or going afk.
You should re-think and then re-phrase your question.
Wrong and mostly wrong. It is possible for you to form a premade, most likely not a 40m one, that should actually still be difficult for you, albeit not totally impossible like it is for us. But semi-premades? Especially during odd hours?
Your main advantage however comes simply from the fact you get into a BG only with ppl from your own server, irregardless whether you colluded with them prior to queuing or not, ppl you’ve been playing with for months and months. If it’s not such a huge advantage, why keep clinging to it tooth and nail? 
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It’s possible in theory, but no one does that. Too much time investment for nothing.
I would rather rush bosses with eu players, but im sure mixing ru players with eu will bring entirely different set of problems. Just imagine russian kids spamming Z in chat or eu players reporting russian players as soon as they join bg.
So you propose to entirely isolate russian region just because of minor advantage in AV.
Yep, he/she certainly does. And that is the whataboutism I was talking about. A nice textbook example at that.
In the former eastern bloc area there is this catchphrase that got turned into satire that we mostly meme about now (albeit some not so bright people still on occasion use it for real) making fun of the soviet propaganda response to accusations of human rights violations. Those accusations were ofc justified, and USSR instead of trying to deny it, which they knew would be hard to sell since they were hugely violating the human rights of its citizens, instead opted for distractions. Whenever especially USA criticized the USSR for that, they replied with “and you beat up the black people”. And boy oh boy was it effective during the Cold war era. So dumb, so simple, yet so effective.
Today it mostly fell out of use besides the jokes, but it has been replaced with other topics and other “what about x” distractions. Still dumb, still simple, still effective.
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no, i would isolate the entire russian region because of the war in Ukraine and the way russia is destroying things for the rest of the world… They shouldnt be allowed to play wow or use anything else from the west while there is an embargo against russia.
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Exactly, it would be a mess, and that is if we even got the Russians to talk in english in the first place.
And yes, I would. People don’t wanna play with or against Russians. Some for gameplay reasons, some for political reasons, some for both. While I would postulate the advantage is not that minor, I still sincerely and not sarcastically thank you for admitting it’s at least some form of advantage. You might very well be the first RU player to admit that on these forums instead of opting for the usual BS story how RU ppl are just playing the AV as intended.
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Yes, absolutly.
Pvp is unfair as is, giving a clear advantage to a faction of the playerbase that’s even clearly identifyable as being different (aka using the cyrillic client) is just more so infuriating.
Segregate the Cyrillic client to their own region, remove them from the EU pool.
If Russians, ukrainians whatnot really want to play with the EU pool, they can swap over to EU clients, use a normal alphabet and be subjected to the same matchmaking limitations as the rest of that pool. Seems like atleast the ones that come to the forum to gloat are perfectly capable of speaking english just as well. So let’s call that integration.
Those that can only speak/write cyrillic, well they can have their own battlegroup to play with, atleast for them they’ll all be as recognizable as the rest of the EU is for us.
It’s really that simple. I don’t get why the russians are so hell-bent on avoiding that… probably because then they lose their edge in pvp?
Getting a 100% chance to team up with only people from your server is an enormous boost to your succes rate, especially if it’s done consistently over a long enough period… automatically you start to create qualitativly stronger bonds and better teamwork.
In original vanilla, when bg’s were server-locked, the games were argueably better and more meaningful too, rather than the quick-win or quick-lose attitude that reigns in xrealm bg’s atm. Even for those ‘not-premade’. You wouldn’t be so easily inclined to be a sore-@ss quitter because chances were very high that:
a) you’d be facing the same opposition alot more often, thus learning to fight them and getting better to fight them was actually motivated
b) you’d likely team up with the same people alot more often, so bad attitude has alot more repercussions in the long run.
With xrealm, being a hazard to the game, a quitter, a non-contributer… well, it barely has any consequences, just queue up again and chances are high you’ll likely not meet the same people again for hours or days, even with constant queue’ing
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“bUt mUrIcA” seems to be every argument they make, all while defending a despotic regime. If it wasn’t so misguided it’d be funny, but it’s just sad and reeks of bollock gobbling brainwash.
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Segregation would mean final death of ru region. No one want to be in reservation and wait hours for AV to pop. Everyone will just migrate to EU, and you will be forced to play WITH the same russians you hate so much.
Also i don’t understant how just being from the same server gives me big advantage. Stranger is still a stranger, i don’t meet same people every bg despite what you guys think.
Where are you from?
Maybe because it makes sense? America literally invaded and robbed countries while spread lies beforehand in order to make it sound legit? So did NATO in Serbia and now exactly these alliances were training soldiers of a country right next to Russia’s boarders with a significant geographical advantage… so you expect Russia just to ignore this for what exact reason? Please enlighten me.
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As WEF said, these people are easy to control. Think about it.
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There is nothing to suggest that it is Russian players reporting EU players. People got banned and it didn’t state who reported them.
It could well be EU players reporting other EU players because they are sick and tired of afkers and throwers.
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