Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction.
This is what I mean though. If you have to “expect consequences”, that is not really freedom of speech is it? And that is my point - we don’t have “real” freedom of speech when people can be fired for having a different political opinion. That goes for both Europe and US.
We’re all human beings though and can get upset when targeted by hate etc. Some things are just down to common sense.
Real freedom of speech, as in saying exactly whatever you please, whether it be offensive/grotesque/involving minors or whatever else disgusting thing you can come up with will never be okay.
In all honesty, I don’t want that level of freedom of speech. Like, do people really want that level of it? You can say it, but don’t expect to say something horrible and not expect a horrible retaliation. It’s just not how the world works.
I’m sure you’re sensible enough to know that though.
I remember the Elitist Jerks forum. It was the harshest moderated WoW forum community of all time.
And it was a treasure trove of quality posting.
In my experience the people who usually balk at harsh moderation are those who’s posting isn’t quality.
There should be communities for those people as well, but maybe not everywhere has to accommodate the lowest denominator.
I mean I am of the opinion that no censorship is ever good and I don’t think I am that affected by people throwing hateful words at me. I understand why people are offended or why people are hurt but how can we ever have an honest discussion if people are banned for stating certain opinions?
I wouldn’t want to live in Russia or China with their censorship and I think we have to actively fight against censorship or it will just increase.
Why not? If I tell you that I am offended by you posting on the forums and it hurts me deeply, will you just stop?
freedom of speech is 2 things. People often confuse them together though, as one single thing.
The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
So the LEGAL MEANING of “freedom of speech” only applies to GOVERNMENTS. Countries with freedom of speech, only prevents the government of said country from limiting your right to political speech & belief (includes the right to protest), religious speech & belief, and the FREEDOM OF THE PRESS.
The OTHER meaning of “freedom of speech”, which is the OTHER thing, is the IDEOLOGICAL MEANING. It has NO legal implication, it does NOT give you any rights, and it’s more a misunderstanding than anything else.
People, who doesn’t know what the legal “freedom of speech” refers to, thinks it gives them the right to say whatever they want wherever they want, but that is just simply wrong. There are even laws limiting what you can say, like for example slander, because that doesn’t fall under political speech if you’re not a “public person”.
So as Bloodlock already mentioned:
PS:
Biggest facepalm moment ever. 
you literally cant, same goes for reddit and whatever activision blizzard forum
you agree on contract when you register an account and start playing their game, if you read any of the print its stated basically that they own all rights and you are just paying for right to use their product as long as they let you, they can take away that right any given time they please if you do something that they see as unfit on their eyes
its already said so many times to you on this thread that i dont know if anyone can explain it more clearer but if you make your own game with forum and the like you can do the exactly same
even on your own forum you are not allowed to break goverments set laws tho, youre not allowed to merchandise illegal drugs or advocate anything related minors with adult content, aka you are still not allowed to break the law on your property but you can dictate what people can say in the set limits of law on your owned forum
i think you need to think about the concept of freedom of speech again
It ain’t a Vinzora thread unless it has:
I know what you mean. There’s a very blurry line, because everyone can be offended by anything. I agree, we are closing on more tightly on what is and isn’t acceptable.
But for the most part, I just use my common sense to judge whether something is or isn’t socially acceptable. Staying away from the obvious, being racism and such.
Wait a sec are you anooraz?
is this arena forum or political discussion forum?
The amount of people who don’t realise this. Some places could really do with a proper education on what “freedom of speech” means.
Lol Reddit is politically funded by a party, I’m not gonna say who, but you can literally look up this information that it funded and astroturfed certain posts for a presidential candidate in 2016.
I’d advice to look up ShareBlue media and look there if you want answers.
Reddit is gonna get crap soon if section 230 is going to be relooked.
still dont change the fact that they say what vinzoru can say on their platform 
Yeah well Reddit can eat a bunch of crap. Honestly the worst site ever. I remember I posted a meme on r/wow mocking the wow devs and it reached 1k likes where the mods removed it because they didn’t deem it “funny”.
That site is the worst. Only hobby related subreddits that haven’t been taken over by a bunch of powertripping mods is good.
just stateing what is fact
you can post memes here on eu arena forum, they hardly moderate or care about pvp or eu
Worldofpvp has moderation cringeworthy enough to rival that of the Twitch channel.
They will ban you or remove threads for having a swear word in it or if you call somebody delusional, but they will allow a thread which is a pure witch hunt on Drainer full of slander and hate to stay up.
The mods have their own agendas, the ‘rules’ are just a smoke screen to make it look like they have some sort of standards. They don’t, they’ll remove and ban if THEY don’t like something. Awful people.
Mate have you seen the requirements here to be able to post pictures? I genuinely do not know how tier 3 posters find the time to play.
I wouldn’t call it a “misunderstanding”. You are absolutely correct when you differentiate between the legal and the other (principle) meaning but the point I was trying to make is that there is no country or place in which this (the principle) holds true.
I do think that freedom of speech has more than a legal meaning though. I am not talking about:
but instead the fact that we are limited in what we can say or cannot say. For example - criticizing Islam or Christianity can in some countries lead to you being threatened. It is not ILLEGAL to criticize but people might not due to the danger it puts them in. Is this a good or a bad thing? That people are silenced because they are scared?
Obviously and I don’t think any sane person WOULD want to hurt people on purpose. I just think it is important that we remember that freedom isn’t given and we should respect freedom of speech A LOT.
haha true 
i mostly go around it using youtube
Yeah sorry, the harsh tone was more meant towards Vinzora, but your post was better to exemplify how that phrase has a legal meaning that’s different from the ideological meaning.
That’s the nature of social interactivity. But for the record, threatening tends to be illegal, so from a government’s PoV you’re already protected from other people in that sense. Although you only said criticize, there’s also hate speech to keep in mind.
Anyone can link to any picture or meme, but the higher trust level just enables it so you can embed them into the post itself. The rest of the people just needs to encode it with 2x ` with one in front and one after, to be able to link to it.
… Although some people write it like h ttp : // ww w . and so on, which is REALLY annoying and who tf can be arsed to manually remove the spaces just to open a damn link.