Is Samantha Swifthoof suppose to be a Dishonorable kill during the Blood moon event in STV? if thats the case its a big grife for the Alliance during the STV event, sadly got my first DK during the event today due to this…
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Yeah I’m bloody scared every time I see her during the event.
The need to change it fast.
so just to clarify, when alliance were sitting on civilians in goldshire (which they still do btw), for about 11 months at this point, baiting horde players to get DHKs and thus being able to gank their DMF buff with impunity, that was okay.
now that there is a stray civ patrolling STV, suddenly its NOT okay and blizzard needs to take action?
peak alliance player mentality tbh.
P.S rank 13 > 14 takes 3 weeks, and if you got a DHK from bloodmoon event that means you now have to pvp for 6 weeks to get to rank 14, from 12.
its gonna be hard to hide this level of schadenfreude tbh.
remember guys, this is just pvp on a pvp server.
horde couldn’t party up in a raid to get their DMF buff because it was basically a 100% guarantee that someone would kill a civilian either on purpose (because griefers) or by accident, netting whole raids of players DHKs.
now its your turn to feel that pain, seeing as you’re either gonna risk DHK in a group during bloodmoon or have to solo it… or simply avoid it forever.
IF blizzard goes out of their way to change samantha chadhoof into a non-civilian, it illustrates perfectly that they are practicing favoritism towards the alliance faction, which up to this point was all but written in stone, because when horde players complained about DHK’s they slept… for 11 months they slept… if we see action taken within a week as a result of this new ‘discovery’ by alliance players, its pretty much undeniable that blizzard is outright biased.
Will you shut it for a minute ffs adults are talking.
We know you’ve been hurt, it’s painful when you sit and your chest is all panicky when you hear an ally player complain but it’s got nothing to do with you. Stop taking it personally, stop your weird vendetta.
SAMANTHA WAS NOT A CIVILIAN WHEN STV WAS POPULAR IN P2 AND P3. You get that ? Blizzard already did the right thing.
Now go back to your cave plz.
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calm down, guy.
i was just asking a genuine question and you seem slightly bothered to say the least.
so yes or no: now that alliance are affected by DHK; action needs to be taken?
Im shocked that he did not mention Ret Paladins once.
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You’re not “just asking a genuine question”. Who’s the more bothered of us when you bring a completely irrelevant point to the post ?
It’s like you’ve been fuming for month and at the slightest chance you’re coming to vomit whatever crap you’ve been cooking between your ears.
Yes Blizzard obviously favor Alliance and will do so every time it gets the chance. It’s all part of a gigantic machination to ruin YOUR personal experience. You’re part of a conspiracy mate, don’t forget to follow the white rabbit and take the blue pill.
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Hope she remains a civilian, she’s awesome
A slow walking level 40ish? cow called Samantha must look like a dream come true to a some pvpers
A nice juicy free kill
Pew pew pew pew…wait…uh …oh
Enjoy.
Riiiight, now could you drop the blunt and kindly take the UD with you back to the PvE server plz ? Cheers.
Horde akways have it worse
I understand your frustration and the comparison you’re trying to make, but I think there’s a significant difference between the two situations.
Samantha Swifthoof is part of an active PvP event, patrolling a large area and effectively becoming a zone-wide risk for dishonorable kills during an event specifically designed for open-world combat. On the other hand, the situation with stationary civilians in Goldshire involves deliberate griefing by players pulling those NPCs into encounters to bait dishonorable kills.
The key distinction is the scale and intent. Samantha affects the entire Blood Moon event across Stranglethorn Vale, impacting anyone participating in good faith. Meanwhile, your example involves players within your own faction actively griefing by exploiting stationary NPCs. Both are problematic, but they arise in different contexts and have different implications for gameplay.
I’m not denying that the Horde’s frustrations with DMF and dishonorable kills are valid. However, the two scenarios aren’t directly comparable, and my concern is how a single patrolling NPC could disproportionately disrupt an entire event, regardless of faction.
Almost the same like entrace to Gnomeregan Is FULL with CIVILIAN GNOMES. Not only 1, like a whole squad of them roaming the area.
its not irrelevant tho.
horde has been griefed beyond belief for a year straight, either by ignorant andies in our DMF raids who genuinely had no idea that killing a civilian would derank a whole raid, or alliance andies with 2 accounts who deliberately joined DMF “raids” just to kill civilians (yes, that is actually the level some of you guys stoop to).
you guys getting some payback through no fault of horde players doing is what buddhists would call “karma”.
i have been mad, admittedly, because things have spun out of control to quite unacceptable levels on both sides when it comes to pvp in this game.
there are some extremely problematic classes that has been in need of attention for weeks, but only shamans have been hit with the nerfbat until recently, and now they just went and buffed elemental again, which is also ridiculous.
okay, so truth now.
paladin needs a bubble nerf, they need 50-75% minus to their damage output while inside divine shield.
i do not mind them being able to burst the way they do outside of their bubble, but inside of it?
no bueno bro, that has to go.
hunter needs a damage nerf, straight up. they simply hit too hard at too great distances.
they also need to have some god damn mana costs to their shots and stings.
their traps are the worst version i’ve hitherto seen in any version of wow.
you can be 10 yards away from a trap and it still triggers… like…
druid has just been gutted (arguably way too harshly, but we will see) but starfall has been left untouched, and that was the main culprit of their ability to be a complete overpowered nuisance to literally everyone around them.
i mean, considering they did nothing about DHK griefing for a year when horde complained, but now, they are probably going to instantly “hotfix” miss swifthoof after 1-2 days of alliance crying their eyes out, is quite telling to say the least.
all i am saying that if it does indeed happen, then that proves everything people such as myself have been saying since the launch of SOD.
all the goldshire civilians are also part of a permanently active pvp event.
that event being horde players trying to get DMF.
no, that’s not what’s happening.
whats happening in DMF is alliance players doing everything they can to make horde players do accidental AOE damage to civilians which kills them in a single hit.
you living bomb an alliance player at DMF?
watch him turn 180 degrees to blink on top of a civilian, knowing it will die and cause that raid a DHK.
stop this cap.
Well, you talked about karma earlier so I guess it’s only fair Paladins should become even bigger monsters for a few phases to equate the Shaman madness we’ve seen for most of SoD ?
See how that argument of I’ve been hurt so you should suffer too is dumb ?
Paladin may or may not need a bubble nerf, I don’t think it’ll happen. From what I’m guessing the devs are done medling with abilities and are rather using indirect ways to tweak and balance classes.
They added a lot of stamina on new PvP gear obtainable from the STV event and that, coupled with the R14 gears are the means by which they seem to want to address PvP balancing. They want us to stack more stam and set aside our PvE tier-set bonuses in order to get out of the one shot meta. Doesn’t mean that some classes don’t need some tuning but I doubt they’ll focus much more on PvP balance.
Paladins still burst too much atm but when people will be more geared, our impact will diminish. We don’t have the CC nor the uptime to really be a bother, hence why we rely so much on our burst. I wouldn’t mind nerfing my damage under bubble if it meant having something to help me stick to my target cause even with my current toolkit any combinaison of purge/dispell and slow rends me useless. I know some match-ups are supposed to be tough but when your whole class is being completely shut down by a single spell, PvP quickly becomes unappealing.
The thing is that this NPC was already ‘fixed’ in previous phases. For some mysterious reason they made her a civilian again in P4 when no one was partaking in the event.
It’s like the guards in Silithus they forgot to reintroduce for a few days, making the town the fourth unofficial BG.
Nah you’re still talking from your behind. It’s just something that needs to be fixed.
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thanks for the clarification.
so it is indeed a problem now that DHK doesn’t exclusively affect horde.
gotcha.
have a nice day.
You did it again.
Having a civilian patrol through what is basicly a battleground is not acceptable. Blizzard needs to change this asap.
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if they change samantha swifthoof, they gotta change the entire population of goldshire too.
suck it up and feel our pain for just a day before you start stomping your feet ya crybabies.
Horde got Civilians roaming the area entrance to Gnomeregan too. Same as that Civilian next to DMF in goldshire.