If you think sanguine is the worst affix, you haven’t done enough keys.
And people skip PUSHING keys on certain weeks. They don’t stop doing keys at all that week.
Be it, say, afflicted, incorp, sanguine, bursting, bolstering on fortified or spiteful or skip a certain dungeon because of a combination of affixes. Not because of one specific affix every single time.
And if sanguine is such an issue, then people wouldn’t be able to time 30+ keys.
I have done quite enough keys to know that sanguine is in fact the worst affix. But as I said, just go to raider and look it up. Yes there are many other affixes that make this or that key harder, but sanguine is different, because every key is bad with it. As mentioned before, balance will never be perfect, but that doesn’t mean they should stop trying to balance the worst of the worst.
Plenty of 31s timed this week. Ofc if you are pushing 32’s i can see why this might be an issue for you.
Is the affix stopping you from doing your 32 keys?
So that is your least favorite affix then. They have nerfed sanguine to the point of it being very manageable than what it once was.
Sanguine being fine as it is shows on raider io. Yes, of course there will be affixes that people will push their keys over. Been like that since M+ got introduced. There’s more affixes that people don’t like. Should blizzard just make them non-existant or outright remove them? Where is the challenge? Thats what m+ is.
Sanguine does not have as a huge impact as the idea behind grevious or explosives. People hated both affixes and the people who do not look forward to run sanguine, are tanks. And yet, they do it anyway. Because it’s very manageable.
There is 4 timed 31s that week in the entire world, that is plenty? Are you insane? Compare it to any other week and see what is plenty.
The fact stands, sanguine is clearly the worst for pushing keys.
Yes yes I know sanguine has been worse in the past, yes I know you can play alts, yes I know other affixes can be problematic too.
Still, sanguine is the worst and i haven’t seen a single good reason why blizzard shouldnt at least try to reign it in with the rest. Bc there is no such reason.
No. It seems you don’t want to accept the simple fact that sanguine is far worse for timing keys than literally anything else. That is all i am stating here and you can look. It.up.
It has nothing to do with whether I personally like it or not.
I would’ve accepted it if the same key levels weren’t timed as any other affix. And yet they are. No matter how many are timed. Keys are being timed at the same level. That’s a fact. And this is STILL the top-top-top-top that 0,1% of m+ players will reach. If you’re not timing key with sanguine, you should either get better tanks or learn to tank yourself.
I have my least favorite affixes. Afflicted and Incorp. As a warrior, I can barley do anything to them as effective as other classes. Against sanguine, I can. Because that’s more a tank affix than anything.
But if you could change sanguine, what changes would you make?
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Is it a fact? Can you factually prove that it is worse than Afflicted or Spiteful perhaps.
Or is this in “Fact” your opinion?
Because if it was a fact, everyone in this thread would be agreeing with you.
But they dont seem to be…
Also what keys are you running that this affix is holding you back, if you can give us a key level range we might be able to change our position.
Sorry, this is just false. It matters very much. This week those keys you talk about are only timed in two dungeons, nelt and ur. In any other week you get timed keys on this level basically every dungeon. Also they time nelt and ur two levels higher any other week.
When looking at statistic’s quantity matters a lot, or would you say buying a lottery ticket with a one in a thousand win chance is the same as buying one with a one in a billion chance? I mean if the price is the same and someones going to win it then it’s fine right?
It is. Go to raider website. Filter all runs leaderboard by affix. Compare. You’re welcome.
Above season title cut off. +30s I need mostly.
Same, but im not having any issues with it. My tank manages it easily.
They just move…
Care to link your profile so I can check out all those 30s you timed this week?
Care to link yours?
Sure, posting with my mage for you. Will you do the same?
Nope 
Nice score tho.
The thing is, I knew you’re lying immediately, because every high ish rated player would tell you how bad sanguine is.
But no matter, I don’t want to make this about who is higher rated or anything. I just want to draw attention to an obvious issue with current affix
And like others and i have said, if it under +25, no one cares. If people had trouble timing 20s, which is where the highest loot is given, then it would’ve been an issue.
The similar situation happened when the god comp got nerfed and the top-top-top-top got mad that no more keys will be timed at that level and spoke as if its the death of m+. If a very small minority gets “punished” while the vast majority wins, then its good.
If its a problem for the 0,1% but not for the 99,9%, no one cares. The absolute vast majority are happy with the sanguine changes.
And that’s where that problem is. You are playing at a level that 99,9% of people wont reach or don’t want to reach. If you said that sanguine is the worst affix for top keys aka 25+ and above, then it wouldn’t be an issue. But you are speaking from the perspective of a top player, talking like its an issue for every single m+ player, when its not.
And please, next time you mention high keys, specifically say what key level. People seem to have their own thinking of what a high key is. Saying high keys, to me, can mean anything between 10-15/16s.
It’s still not the point. Yes in lower keys it is no problem, but it is in higher keys. I’ll say it again hoping you follow me this time:
Changing sanguine doesn’t hurt anyone. Leaving it like it is hurts ppl in high keys. Why not change it? Then everybody wins.
And i’ll ask again, since you didn’t answer me last time, how would you change it to make it “better”?
Make the pools last for 2 sec and max radius be 1 yard, heal max 1 mob per pool with a max of 1 stack and a max of 0,5% hp every 2 seconds and deal 0,5% of damage to you?
People in low and high keys doesn’t have a problem with it. People in the top-top are having issues therefore we need to change it? You are not entitled to changes because you’re having issues when other top-top players aren’t.
Or another very easy fix for this is very, very simple and easy to do: don’t play on those weeks.