San'layn Rework

Shame this hero tree is dead and it’s need some talent changes and visual effects addition.
• Switch Vampiric Strike core ability between heart strike/ scourge strike and death strike/ death coil. Make heart strike and scourge strike proc Vampiric strike and make Vampiric Strike replacing death strike and death coil. Its better for it to be runic spender then generator.
• Stack Essence of the blood queen only three times instead of five times.
• Make heart strike/ scourge strike proc Vampiric strike more frequently.
• Blood is life should change our ghoul to blood beast automatically during our gift of the san’layn window.
• Make the blood beast help to gain more runic power for spamming more Vampiric strike (death strike/ death coil) during gift of the san’layn window.
• during gift of the san’layn we should get a new form visualy. Maybe blood bat wings or something like that.

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Blizzard forget passives, give blood skills from this hero talent section.

For they need to change the whole using Vampiric Blood as part of the offensive rotation gimmick.

Any visual update would be a big win… The animations are barely visible and the sfx are all very discrete and get lost in the mix.

I know the San’layn are part of the Scourge and DK lore and makes sense as a concept, but it just seems hard to execute in a fitting matter. They could have had something more Lich or necromancer inspired.

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Moving Gift of the San’layn from Vampiric Blood to Dancing Rune Weaponon the ptr of patch 11.0.5 is a step in the right direction that everybody was looking for.
I still hope that they will switch Vampiric Strike between Heart Strike and Death Strike.
But even if they won’t change it because they don’t want us spamming Death Strike, they need to give a serious buff to Infliction of Sorrow. This is should be the San’layn tree Nuke. As it now, Vampiric Strike extending the duration of only one Blood Plague and after the window ends, it consumes only that one blood plague debuff and not the other two dropped by our runic weapons. Whether it’s a bugg or intended, it’s should be changed and workout with all Blood Plague debuffs on the targets.
And again, visualy the hero talent has to get a significant update. Dev did pretty good job with Fel-Scarred dh, common, just give us something nice for Vampiric Strike, Gift of the San’layn and Infliction of Sorrow…

Hope that more changes to this hero tree will be coming soon

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i dont think this or any hero talents will get rework during an expansion, maximum they wil buff or nerf the talents in it.

San Layn have core issues, but its mainly a bug i guess, like the blood beast is kinda never happening

Some buffs coming for next week update, pluse they changed Gift of the San’layn to work with Dancing Rune Weaponon instead of Vampiric Blood in the PTR. So we are on the right way i think.

I like the change to swap Gift from Vamp Blood to DrW. I don’t mind not having an active button for the spec. Blood and Unholy are already getting quite bloated for active abilities, which is one of the reasons I don’t enjoy Deathbringer. We are already taking Soul Reaper and Consumption as Blood, and I am running out of good keybinds,

Thematically it would have been cool if something like the Venthyr ability “Swarming Mist” was fit into the tree somehow, like you would get the visual effect during DrW and maybe some of small RP gains.

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Passive is smoother - I like passive - we have enough buttons already

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Keybinds - good grief - get back to your two button mouse and click your spells - that’s where the skill is

So with this rework San’layn will be more tanky in terms of self healing?

I’m not sure. But moving Gift of the San’layn from Vampiric Blood to Dancing Rune Weapons means you don’t need to use vamp blood as a dps cooldown, which was pretty clunky design.

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also it gets a buff in % activates right? vampiric strike i mean

we get a stacking haste buff up to 7%, but that’s already live. They also increased the damage of some stuff a bit this week, but Deathbringer is still ahead for damage.

I think they should change the healing aspect on vampiric strikes. Healing for 1% of max hp as a Blood DK is pretty much useless. Would much rather see Gift of the San’layn giving 1% dmg reduction pr stack up to 7%, just like the haste buff.

I tried some sanlyan in mythic 3 today. It’s ok I feel that I get more health back but death bringer aoe when the scythes hits . It’s the best

Deathbringer has a great design, but i just don’t like it’s theme. I think that by letting Infliction of Sorrow works out with our Blood Plague debuffs of our DRW and consuming all of them all together. This will make Infliction of Sorrow extremely significant and climatic moment in the San’layn rotation.
This is also very thematic now, when DRW is activating Gift of the San’layn and not VB…

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