where is the argument ? can you link it to me becuase i literally do not follow.
Postnumber 18 of this thread posted by Ishayo from Tarren Mill from the guild Geist
I am not your secretary
Ok, fine lets expand this together:
This makes absolutely no sense.
Why would they revert to being night elves? Did the worgen revert the curse? did the undead became human again ? did the demon hunters became elves again ?
also
Why are we talking about good and evil, when its entirely subjective.
No, also the word âcorruptedâ is really such a wide umbrella term blizzard uses and it could mean anythin however they did NOT use that word to describe Satyrs.
Heres how they describe them:
âSatyrs are a race of bestial demons USUALLY SWORN to the Burning Legionâ
âusuallyâ and âswornâ should draw the attention here.
âThey are created through the spreading of the ancient satyr curse, an affliction which originated with Xaviusâ
Translation: He was the original bearer of the curse and he passes it on making it a proxy connection with Sargeras when it comes to the other satyrs.
Just like the worgen their proxy being Eonar ⌠i mean Elune doesnt make them âgoodâ.
Satyrs proxy being Musha⌠i mean Sargeras make them âbadâ.
Do you know who else worships Sargeras? The tauren.
Are they evil ?
But they align with Sargeras and Nzoth ? wasnt that bad like ⌠not aliance-like ?
Theres no evidence that Nâzoth is defeated but thats not the reason they would join the alliance.
Theyâre radically obssessed with their Queen.
Theyâre not mind controlled.
Though i wont pretend that i dont see what you mean.
I mean youâre wrong ? they are night elf civilians too. Just the same way Gilneans didnt stop being Gilneans once they got afflicted by the worgen curse.
I could use this to describe Sargeras.
But theyâre demons after all and you sole rejection of the Satyr was âcorruptionâ which is false, and them being demons, which they are but so are demon hunters.
I agree with this, though why do we need factions to begin with?
If i want to be an evil character there should be a part i can undertake.
If i want to be a tavern bard satyr i should be able to be that.
If i want to be a good hearted satyr i should be able to choose that.
You can choose your class but not your personality and morals ?
Also there many dark arts classes who are accepted into the alliance,
if we are to use the âgood guyâ argument.
Whats with that ?
Because thatâs how that particular curse works, as evidenced by the example you gave me.
Yes, sometimes theyâre sworn to the old Gods. Whoop. But one thing is for sure, with is that they have wholly rejected Elune.
Align_ed_. They were mind-controlled civilians. The mind control is now broken.
These curses donât all work the same. Thatâs important. The peculiarities of the Satyr curse is that it is spread through convincing or extortion rather than infection.
I mean Iâm not. The Satyr curse does not spread as a traditional disease; you have to choose to be infected.
Because NPCâs should understand what to do with you, otherwise immersion is broken.
Any time I see someone with ideas for new customisation all I can do is say yes! Any customisation is good in my personal opinion. Love seeing more unique characters out in the world!
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i mean it also spares resourses rather than making a seperate race for each elf tribe.
Buuut i dont mind a new race either
I would love Satyr options on Night Elves, great suggestion!
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Or you know⌠No factions since they have been a stain on this game since inception.
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Think of the fluffy arms they could have!
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I strongly disagree with that, but what I will agree is that they donât fit the game anymore. As soon as they merged all the servers it ceased to make any sense. So⌠weâre back to around MoP or WoD with this one.
Its purpose was to keep the community a certain size while allowing a world twice the size; and it delivered beautifully.
Itâs such a shame what has happened since. But we are where we are, and where we is a situation where dynamic factions would be a much better fit.
So basically, you choose what to join, with some factions giving you preferential treatment based on race and class, and all this also makes enemies out of NPCâs and players, which you must then deal with when questing. All faction gameplay falls away during raids and dungeons.
So something like⌠imagine if Covenants had been purely cosmetic, but the 4 realms were at war, and that was the reason you were forced to choose. Heck, add the 5th one - letâs fight for the Maw! Night Fae gives a couple of initial bonus levels to Druids or Shamans for example, while the Kyrian might do the same for a Priest or Paladin.
Not that I expect any of this to happen. For all of Blizzardâs open world design, they simply LOVE rail-roading people.
I would personally love a world where it reacts to what you are but faction based reactions are dull anyway.
I wish it was one idea closer to Baldurs gate where you are a little more personal with the npcs in both senses wink
like for example you help Mankrig find his dead wife , now he has extra dialogues only for you, he also sells u some consumables but because you helped Mankrig (just for the sake of example) there is a patrolling quilboar that will recognize you and follow your around southern barrens slowly and if he gets to you you have to fight him everytime hes alive. Just for the sake of example, i know my example is ridiculous.
The idea is that via developing relations with the world it reveals extra lore and scenarios for you and it also will help immersion immensely.
As proven by Avrus Illwhisper, Satyrs that turn away from Sargeras and redeem themselves turn back into Night Elves.
A new race would be better tbh. Also pretty sure itâs just satyr irrelevant of gender. Satyress isnât a thing
I see no harm in Satyrs as a potential allied race, we could do with complete different races rather than recycle, rinsing and repeating, like is cool weâre getting earth dwarves making it the 3rd copy paste for dwarves and same for elvish races having a total of 4 elves.
Then donât make a forum to demand things, if you are not willing to listen to other peopleâŚlike what xD?
It would be cool to have. I am not a night elf guy though.
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I really hope youre trolling.
I do want a discussion however its annoying when 1 person is the loudest.
Yes i see the error of my ways too now.
And i shouldnt have reacted the way i did,
its just im a little fed up because this happens way to often- people being extremely dismissive over something that will only bring to expression with close to no side effects.
Its just his strong reaction made me react as sharply.
And look.
I do apologize he also had a point about the Satyr example i brought up that was totally legit i just missed it because i came back from a 10 hour shift and my mind was tired.
However a narrative where satyrs do not get rid of their connection to Anshe (Sargeras) could be easily created.
Itâll never happen any time soon as they need to join a faction, and theyâre outright evil. Weâd have to wait for another questline where they become all repentant which definitely needs to happen and is not silly at all for every eviiilllll race. Also, theyâd have to be an actual race, not customisation for nelves.
As i said - i dont care. For me its even better if they are a race.
As for them being good or evil- this would only add to their core fantasy of deceivers and tricksters.
Undeads are not really benevolent either even to their own faction theyâre always scheming.
I just hope the satyr girls for Alliance would be exceptionally thick.