Anything above 5 buttons in a rotation is just a competition of who has bigger hands or who would like to get carpal tunnel issues sooner.
Other classes seem to be getting less buttons for midnight, but not rets. We lost divine hammer and got judgement/HoW combined, but wings and CS are back (if I’m reading patch notes correctly)
Bloated rotation doesn’t make it harder or more fun - there is zero thinking involved in pressing wings every minute when an icon flashes at you. It’s just tedious.
Could the devs please look into consolidating further?
Making rotations less ridiculous will encourage people to learn instead of just using 1br
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Ret has too many buttons? 
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Never thought I’d see the day when people complain about ret’s rotation being difficult/bloated yet here we are.
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To me, Ret would feel quite empty if pruned more than a button or two. It’s not a particularly high APM rotation as things stand - though granted, I might be part of the “has large hands” inner circle!
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- Wings didn’t change, we still can talent into radiant glory which replaces wings. Judg/HoW combined and CS being back means we stay roughly the same on offense.
- On defense, our two 1min cooldown defensives are getting merged. -1 button.
- On PvP utility, we are losing Spell Warding and Searing glare replaces blinding light. -1 button.
wtf ret so ez play just press ever glow up there u go u do dmg 123 123 123
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Blizz’s philosophy for this expansion seems to be about trimming the fat, and many classes are getting buttons removed. I wish we got some of that too. (at the very least, let us keep the auto swing!)
Have you seen the new devourer spec? it’s max 6 buttons! 4 if you don’t choose the talents, and people say they are hella fun to play.
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The amount of buttons is fine on ret, and it will be fine in midnight as it stands right now.
Use 1 button rotation if it’s too hard for ya
Ret is getting worst in midnight as it stands nothing more to say on the matter any ret paladin should be able to see it we dont suffer with button bloat as it is .
That’s pretty much all the classes in retail.
Have you played them ?
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I tried it on alpha, it’s fine. What exactly do you think is getting worse?
i going void dh look so good
Maybe try playing hello kitty games .those only need one hand to play .wow seems out of your skill to play
Complete nonsense.
I have 1 of every class, and tbh every class has a few abilities that could be pruned with no loss.
Also people saying Ret doesnt have as many buttons as other classes either use 1 button rotation or dont put any of the utility spells on their bars/keybinds…
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Why stop there .the game should auto play for you while you do other things in life /sarcasm
After I saw Midnight changes - I wanna delete my character, i’s idiotic rework/
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bro literally ret has 3 buttons to press. and if you dont like it you can press 1 with 1 button rotation XD
Losing hammer of wrath and a defensive, combined with having to either have Blessing of Protection or Blessing of Freedom is the most backwards crock I’ve seen so far. But to top it off our single target damage is the worst its been for a while, and thats saying something.