Is there a Scarlet Crusade Guild still active on Argent Dawn EU in TWW if so where about can I find them?.
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no, all the scarlet guilds died out.
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Thankfully away, best case is to get in an antagonist Arathi guild tbh
Letās not ruin Arathi RP by turning them into zealots mkay.
But yeah OP, theyāre gone afaik.
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Considering we fight two splinter factions of the Arathi who are both zealots in quite similar ways but for different cosmic powers, roleplayers portraying priory fanatics or order of night traitors shouldnāt really be that much of a stretch, and in no way would it āruin Arathi RPā.
Iād argue itād make the Arathi RP scene a little more exciting in any event.
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nine times outta ten it ends up being fourth reich RP with a different coat of paint. Iād love to be wrong but history kinda shows
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Yeah this is one of the reasons why I think Scarlet RP died out. Granted, itās not as if Blizzard helped in this situation with the updated Scarlet dungeons where they give all the characters German Accents and have one of them burning books while being the defacto āoutsiders must dieā faction
Cataclysm-era writing SUCKS.
Thatās not to give those roleplayers a free pass though - they shouldnāt be for obvious reasons, but when even Blizzard themselves are going āHeY tHiS fAcTiOn Is LiTeRaLlY sHmAdOlF sHmItLeRā it makes it so much worse.
Anyway to get a little back on topic as to why Scarlet RP died - thatās one of the reasons. People donāt like LARPing as the worst group of people in human history and if they do you probably shouldnāt associate with them, but thereās the other problem of Scarlet reclamationists/penitents which largely boils down to either just being a Church guild - which is fine, but thereās plenty of them and itās not a concept that really pulls most people in - or it comes down to āno guys, weāre not really Scarlets!ā while still dressing in red and white and āāāsecretlyāāā being zealous which is a personal pet peeve of mine as it is incredibly boring to roleplay with.
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Yeah, giving the Scarlet Crusade german names and accents has to be one of the more tone deaf choices theyāve made.
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Free pass for what? Rping Scarlets?
I also started RPing a Scarlet, thatās another reason.
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No no, in this particular case Iām referring to people who basically used the Scarlet Crusade as a highly unsubtle means of WW2 worship.
Theyāre not the only faction thatāve had that problem, the forsaken have had some sus players and thereāve been a few human guilds that were also very blatantly dogwhistles, but I feel like the scarlets attracted more of those players.
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The developers chose to make that sort of thing a part of the setting, ultimately. I stand by the golden rule of role-play in regards to not treating someone as their character regardless of what theyāre portraying.
Iād very much prefer the Scarlet Crusade to have been handled with more nuance since the idea of a group of zealous survivors broken by the horrific rise of the Scourge and then the supposedly āfreedā Scourge being just as monstrous has a lot of potential.
Though speaking as a Blood Elf role-player, thereās a lot of people on this server who seem to treat any remotely antagonistic character or faction as the worst thing ever with no regards to the fact that ultimately it all make believe.
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I do have to say, it probably helps none to any of these roleplay scenes to instantly assume that anyone who is interested in any of these kind of roleplays to be a part of the more unsavoury groups of people that have sadly associated themselves with it, be it with less or more numbers. It took five posts from the point of someone asking the simple question about whether there was a Scarlet Crusade guild or not on the realm for the words āFourth Reichā to be posted.
Now, I understand being weary. Having roleplayed Forsaken for a long time, I sadly understand how much of a minefield the online realm of Warcraft Roleplay can be - but for any conversation about someone seeking interaction with these roleplay scenes to be instantly derailed into talking about these āpeopleā ensures that said āpeopleā are the only ones around, because they donāt mind being called what they are, but someone who just wants to roleplay an evil paladin does mind being associated with everything this thread has mentioned out of nowhere.
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It reminds me of those articles you see from time to time about how the actress for Cersei Lannister and the actor for Joffrey Baratheon were harassed and treated as if they were actually the characters that they were portraying.
Thereās very much a similar phenomenon at play when it comes to role-play and I think itās pretty dangerous to spin narratives about role-players portraying antagonists and villains as secretly being the worst people ever especially when the supposed evidence is often very flimsy and based on edgy jokes or supposed ādog-whistlesā.
At any rate, I hope the OP meets with some success and Iād advise anyone who has a Scarlet Crusader alt or guild to reach out to the OP in private rather than draw the aggro of the peanut gallery.
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Iāve always been interested in joining a villanous group like that, but admittedly always been turned off by the idea of accidentally joining a guild run by a madman perpetrating real life ideologies. Perhaps the risk of that happening is smaller than one would think, and a risk worth taking rather than catastrophing over. I hope to see the scene return in due time!
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The issue was that it was rarely just the sorts of things Blizzard put into their setting that they would portray.
Actual Scarlet Beliefs: Adherence to The Light, Destroying unbelievers, humans are pretty dope and based.
Scarlet RPāers being a parody of themselves: [racist and homophobic slurs in cath square]
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I agree, and Iām not out here saying that all scarlet RPers are nahtzee-adjacent - they arenāt. You can roleplay a character who has fallen into religious indoctrination and absolute paranoia and I wonāt think of you as a bad person for doing so, if anything itās a commendable thing to willingly play a villai nebcause youāre going to get a lot of people who want to one-and-done fight them rather than letting any sort of rivalry or tension build.
When I made the claims of scarlet RP being adjacent to IRL fascism, itās because people would basically turn the concept of a hyper-religious doomsday cult (ours is the only path to salvation, there is no other way forwards than 100% devotion etc etc) into white supremacist nonsense and misogyny.
I only saw this after typing what I just typed but this basically sums it up.
Well, Blizzard didnāt really help this by establishing insofar as the Scarlet Crusade is concerned āunbelieversā is anyone not part of the Scarlet Crusade, but especially non-humans.
Oh yeah, and I mean, that part, in the context of WoW, isnāt that bad. Itās the stuff that seems to get inevitably injected into these sorts of groups, like skin-colour racism, homophobia, misogyny, etc.
Looking back at some of the ones weāve had over the years itās cartoonish to think they ever got any lee-way with that sort of behavior lol
lmaoā¦ My post got reported and removed. Sadgeā¦ But yeah. Scarlet rpers of the past whereā¦ Questionable people. That did very unsavory things to other rpāers
But hey its been over ten years now. Maybe a new crusader guild will be different.
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