Greetings.
What do You think, how happening are impact?
Whatever the devs would want to.
They were utterly defeated when the Scarlet Onslaught fell.
They were destroyed when Cataclysm events happened and the players helped the forsaken to clear the place and get info from there.
It was even more destroyed in MoP when the dungeon was modernized.
It was destroyed even further during the Legion DK campaign.
So, eh. The story of Scarlets went from interesting in the original form, (subjectively) with members of different races surviving the zombie apocalypse, and then falling into a dreadlord trap, all the way into a sort of enemy which is not quite enemy but bad because bad, and will reappear whenever the plot requires.
Not sure there is much info about it now. There were some pamphlets from them, like
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/The_Cursed_Old_Wolf
so they suddenly exist again.
But at the same time, Tirisfal is currently controlled by the forsaken, according to the “Exploring Azeroth” EK book.
So, it’s an odd story.
gl hf
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Hm, do the devs still remember the Scarlet Crusade huh?
Those pamphlets were also explicitly mentioned in Golden’s book about the EKs, so, that’s certainly a yes for…
So yeah, they are most probably planning something, and that something will relate to Calia and the fate of her actual child.
And the Scarlets will be a throwaway foe once again, like they have always been, and they will either fade to nothing, after helping Calia finish that chapter of her character arc, or they will be resocialized by Calia, making me wish they had faded to nothing.
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Considering the above — undoubtedly.
Maybe they’ve taken a page from the Nathrezim and infiltrated the ranks of the Argent Dawn/Crusade.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they resurface to “reclaim” some parts of Lordaeron… maybe even the former Capital city itself.
In any case, I definitely don’t think the Forsaken have as a strong a grip on the region as they did before the 4th War. Loosing both Sylvanas and Nathanos has left them in disarray and vulnerable even with characters like Lillian Voss stepping in to try and fill their shoes. That’s not to mention where at least some of their veteran commanders and leaders probably would have perished during the course of the war in general via attrition too. This is even more so given their prominence in both Darkshore warfront and the siege of Undercity scenario, both of which can be assumed as costly losses for the Forsaken.
This probably leaves them understaffed and open to factions they wouldn’t normally consider threats.
Since MoP the Scarlets have had time to recuperate.
So if I had to speculate, they’ve probably rebuilt at least some of their former number given that we know they’re still an active organisation and recruiting via the recent propaganda pamphlets seen in game.
I’m also sure there will be a lot of disenfranchised humans from the various kingdoms (and former kingdoms) who probably aren’t thrilled with the idea of a ceasefire treaty either.
Those individuals would rather fight on and eliminate what’s left of the Horde in the Eastern Kingdoms. Especially those who probably suffered some sort of personal loss and are more likely to harbour a vendetta of sorts. Others would see the ceasefire as betrayal given the Alliance probably had (or still have) an advantage in the Eastern Kingdoms now with the Forsaken in such a weakened state.
Like any extremist ideology the Scarlets message would do well in times of crisis, conflict and disillusionment like this. Where it can prey on and amplify people’s fears, prejudices and xenophobia. This post war period where tensions are probably still running high provides fertile ground for them to grow and gather support again in order for them to rebuild themselves.
They’ll offer an alternative to what the Alliance may be unwilling or unable to do.
The logic to how they garner support could be along similar lines to how the Twilight’s Hammer cult become so popular after WotLK and during the Cataclysm. Similarly, that organisation garnered a large following by leading a bunch of disenfranchised people down a dark path with the promise of “Salvation” at the end of the road.
These were individuals left destitute from the Northrend campaign or who felt abandoned by their leaders during the Cataclysm or felt left behind/outcast by their respective societies in general.
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It seems that WoTLK happenings were last most successful from a plot point of view in every way for them.
Depends on the perspective. It’s a dropped story line. It does not go in details about neither Abbendis, nor what’s the deal with the visions she had.
Mostly they served as a tool to show Mal’ganis again. It kind of did that job reasonably well, but many more things were left unanswered.
gl hf
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They are an undercover group now, called the Scarlet Brotherhood who mostly act from the shadows, namely spreading the pamphlets which were mentioned earlier. Theirs is less extermination and more manipulation as well, such as mentioning that Genn is best as Alliance’s leader to defeat the Undead and alike, and accusing Anduin of being the one behind the death of Calia, as well as claiming to have the Son of Calia with them.
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