Season 2 ksm requires both tyrannical and fortified 15s in 9.1

TBC is fun, you enter on the game and the first thing you see is 10000000 level boost selling advertise.

How dare they think differently than you? :open_mouth:

all i need to know is that game director Ion who tells people how they should just "git gud " and deal with tyranical has not completed neither PF nor SD even once in S1 not even on +2

this tells a lot about how people treat m+ :slight_smile:

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just like retail lol. ksm boost, hc boost :slight_smile:

Yeah unlike retail, oh wait retail is even worse

well its pretty obvious 9.1 is last patch of this expansion so they will stretch is as long as possible :slight_smile:

You guys realize that you just need 2k points in general?

So you dont have to complete 15+ on tyrannical to get the mount, you can just climb higher on fortified and do lower tyrannicals.

People that cant do 15+ tyrannical doesnt deserve the mount anyway.

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Tyrannical +15 SD is easier than on fortified though.

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I feel like up to +17 or +18 it depends on the dungeon, but after that the boss just becomes too strong, fights last too long, and mechanics are too punishing. Yes the same goes for mobs on fortified, but you can 9/10 work your way through a pack by killing a mob before wiping, making it permanently weaker.

I have, even in my pre-made. I have all keys on 18 or 19, but SD we’re stuck with on 17 atm. This dungeon is just terrible.

If they’re doing half the dmg of a 226 player while in 200, then they should get good indeed.

As a game director you most likely saw the game enough during development. (he usually gets CE if I remember correctly tho)

It’s fine to gate it behind challening content, but not boring content. Tyrannical is boring. M+ is not about the bosses. That’s what raids are for. The moment you make trash flop instantly and bosses take 3-4 minutes, you get a boring dungeon. Playing affliction on Tyrannical weeks is so straigh up painful because the trash is dead before I manage put up my dots, and start rapturing, even on 16+. And when I do manage to start rapturing, the pack is dead after the first two raptures. And then there’s the bosses that don’t do anything extra but just take a lot longer. Woohoo yeppe yay, challenging content.

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I more got this with spires and DOS. And timer-wise theater. Up till yesterday my highest timed SD was +17 tyrannical bolstering necrotic. Last week we got completely destroyed on Spires +18 again, because of tyrannical :frowning:

Are you one of the people that thinks everything should be handed to them?

Every can get the mount if they are good enough (its not difficult when you have full gear). So yes, if you cant manage to run 15+ on tyrannical you are bad and should improve.

Who told you that m+ is not about BOSSES? wtf :smiley:

As it stands now, the approximation is that if you’d want to get KSM only by doing fortified keys, you’d have to do each dungeon on a +24. That’s not easier than doing those keys on fortified +15. The point that Tyra is boring at those levels.

Spires on tyrannical is easy. DoS only hakar is a challenge, imo.

It shows everyone has a different perspective and experience :slight_smile: hakkar is also easy. It is about the dealer in DoS.

Why would anyone do only fortified? Especially if 10+ Tyrannical is free.