Blizz should just make delv, m+ and raid only “items”, similar pvp ones, so noone had to be “forced” to farm other content to be better that the content he/she interested. Problem solved.
You did not read mine. Nor do any attempt to comprehend.
Look at the trinket page. Of 22 trinkets that drop only 2 are worthy of mention. And they only drop in Raids. From M+, only 3 are worthy of mention (A tier), of a total pool of 11. So I got a 27% chance to get a usefull trinket, and a 73% chance of getting garbage.
Its the same every season. I end up farming that 1 trinket for ages, meanwhile I got like… 12 trinkets (many repeat) sitting in my bags that are utterly worthless.
So from this point of view, Delves is not special AT ALL. Welcome to the club. You can go through that list and check the Raid trinkets, M+ trinkets, Delves Trinkets… you have a HUGE pool and only a few that are good.
So you went to a delve. And got ONE trinket. And the probability that it was garbage is higher than being usefull. And you got the garbage. SUPRISED? NO !!
Get it now?
And WHY you might ask? Because the trinkets that are garbage to YOUR spec might not be garbage to other specs. And that is WHY the pool is so big with trinkets. In Delves, M+ and Raids. And that is why its hard to get performing trinkets. In Delves, M+ and Raids (in case I did not repeat myself enough).
Yes agreed, I expected a small challenge same as what S1 proposed. But it feels like this is way under tuned at the moment.
I literally can take the “hero” packs without CDs and survive. S1 (even with hero track gear all over) was way more challenging than this when doing 11s.
By doing this, they fully embrace the fact that delves will never give Myth track (and that’s justified right now), while I would have hoped for a parallel with M+ but with a solo focus…
Ever other post during Season 1 was about M+…
I am a proponent of a complete divorce, or even a partial divorce in gear. Like ONLY weapons and trinkets… Stuff like that.
That way the devs can do whatever they wish with Delves. And in my case, I would not complain so much about Raid favoritism.
Yes. I was one of those complainers. To the point I stoped playing. Not even SL managed to make me stop playing.
And if Blizz would have listend as much as you claim there would not have been that many posts. They would have done the necessary changes ASAP.
Like they did with Delves.
They tuned delvs for MP but forgot the scaling making it easier than solo… Brann was doing all the damage… bug fixes isn’t tuning… and if you mean Vekvir ?? well 4% did him I think maybe they over tuned it to the target audience.
We couldn’t even upgrade past 616… but M+ bros crying and got more crests for easier content… M+ was meant to be a challenge but ofc we can’t have that
You said it yourself :
Every other post during the first weeks of S1 was about Delves though (if you remember). Then they did all this:
And all of a sudden… silence…
So whatever they did, apparently it was sufficient.
NO. You did not get the point.
M+ is the content it is. For people that like to do 5 man dungeons.
PEOPLE. Not Swetlords. Exclusevely.
There needs to be a dungeon for everyone. And you cannot gatekeep things “only for the pros” and then be surprised when most of the people dont play anymore, and only “the pros” play…
And its the same with Delves. Its made for PEOPLE that like solo. Not neceserelly for people that like easy content. Therefore, some like to do EZ content and do 5s, others 8s, others 11s, and others Zekvir in ?? for the “pros”. But Blizzard NEVER gatekeept gear to Zekvir ??.
But they did in M+…
Sorry has WoW changed… So you pick any random 5… not those who no life M+ fully gem/enchanted and overgeared… Come on now.
You can get raid gear from a 5 man and yet ppl wanted mystic raid gear from them… laughable.
Uda just do not bother , it is not worth the time to try . They have an answer for everything yet no knowledge about what they speak off.
So I’m wrong and you guys aren’t elitist snobs who use what ever gearscore is called now when picking players?
What does that have to do with anything?
You can do a +2 fully decked in Myth track gear and siterally yolo the dungeon “for fun” and “chill”. Or start doing +20s while smashing that keyboard with 200 APM, 180IQ plays…
You can PuG those mythic raiders. Or you can have a premade… you can do anything…
You can, as you suggest, want to be carried by said mythic raiders. And even THOSE guys need a place in M+.
Why? Are you seriously saying that a +22 is somehow easier than a mythic raid boss? Is that what you are implying?
You are wrong because we use friends/guilds/communities to push in a fun and friendly environment with like minded players. Also find this funny as you were showing off how you were in top 4% in s1 in delves.
5mans if you mess up the key is wrecked and you only get 2 pieces of loot. A raId you can keep going and going wipe after wipe and get lots of loot. You can not and should not compare the two.
I am not an elitst snob.
In fact, I try to pick people with similar rating as my own for keys. Because those tend to be the people that actually want to time the key.
Because someone that has 300/400 more rio than me has absolutely no interest doing the key. They already timed it. They already have gear… they are just there “for the fun”. And will be as engaged in the success of the dungeon as a peanut.
Only people like you beleive that getting carried by OP people is the way to go. It isent.
And I dont do it out of the love of my heart, beleive me. I do it because reality and “imagination” (which is what you claim) are two different things.
Raid is harder yes… having 24 other players makes it harder for that reason alone…
Prob when Blizzard make M+ if give ppl an ego trip and think the game is all about them.
You need 19 plus yourself = 20 for the toughest raid and only 10 for a normal raid and this is beside the point people will still ask for AOC.
Delves give okey item level and more crests then last season and people are still not happy what more do you want?
I tend to agree that the gear system in this game starts to become outdated. Even more with all these tracks and upgrade.
And now they added renown track to the raid itself to justify a coin system after x weeks of farming said raid. It seems they find half working solutions because they forget how their playerbase are min-maxing everything.
At least Pvp have kind of resolved some of these problems, while still keeping a stupid gatekeep for newcomers (I would expect that honor gear doesn’t exist, and would be free for all but I’m dreaming…).
Well since they have nerfed them already. Not really no instead of 3/6 we get 2/6 its not worth the bother to run 8’s now. But didn’t they increase stuff for lower M+ teirs… hmm odd.
You are still getting heroic raid level loot just means you have to upgrade 1 more time than before such a hardship.
not really because thats how seasons work in raids and m+
Imma be honest, what it hints to me is that Blizzard have decided even Casual Andy should be allowed 30 gildeds per week.
And honestly, as someone who will run M+ 10s (or higher), and heroic raid, and maybe a bit of mythic raid this tier - I’m chill with it. I’ll even take advantage of it on alts.
Collecting a full set of hero-track gear from delves alone is likely to be a 15-20 week endeavour depending on how many maps you can get hold of. On the long end, that is kind of a whole season. I think Blizzard are just letting us have that much, over that time frame, mostly for free. You gotta put in the legwork, but you don’t gotta sweat it. And that’s fine, imo.
Although ngl, I wouldn’t mind seeing like… T12-T15 which have nothing except cosmetics and really do need you to have end-of-season gear.
Do you even read patch notes? you get 1 map per week max.
You are one yourself are you not? Just because you do heroic and entry level mythic raid does not make you hardcore and top% far from it.
I remember reading you saying you hated s1 and could not be bothered with even doing weekly 10’s so which is it?