SF without fresh server

Berny believes, if there was a separate server, there would be no opting out. Server would be perma SSF.

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it is already no ssf,just sf.meaning only trading is off.you can already group with others normaly yada yada

Berny is very sad to hear that. HC should have been pure SSF from day 1.

Or maybe guildSF like road-to-raggy.

imo it should be full ssf up to 60 then just hardcore but it is what it is.

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we have people in our guild doing ssf without talents with the help of the hardcore addon. You can set all kinds of crazy rules in that addon