SH Priest point of view defined by Dispersion

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Many players think shadow priests is op in pvp. Is it really the case post SWD nerf?

I have been playing lot of WSG and STV as shadow priest recently and I think shadow priest is great and it can dominate battleground but I would venture to say priest owes it ONLY THANKS TO DISPERSION. Dispersion is probably the best defensive in game. And I say priest would be garbage without this in pvp. It saves life from ganks and allows to win 1v1 scenarios. And in 1v1+ scenario priest can’t really cast any non-instants (unless enemy is moonkin or priest without homunculi, or enemy is caster and is silenced :smile: ) cuz pushback or interrupt is too punishing so priest needs dispersion to extend his life for ticking dots and/or “pets” and SWD 2nd use.

What if the one who beats priest is OP?
I think the most hopeless scenario for sh priest is BM hunter. Priest can’t do any harm to pet and he will tear you apart while there is no enough time to kill hunter (on your own). But BM hunters suffer from melee so they are ok I guess.
And there are shamans… Enha is just too tough and hits too hard and you can’t really escape him, Ele on another hand can kill you with double lava burst (as everyone else?) unless dispersion. And they keep spamming totems which takes your dmg/fear away. Who actually counters shamans?

The thing with shamans seems to really be not fair cuz they are just so much useful than paladins… but that’s another topic.

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random? if yes first mistake

play Ab

Without it in 1v1

in grp fight still decent, if u fight randoms what dont use dispell

just get the addon BattleGroundEnemies, go to blacksmith in ab, dot every enemy with void plague, and enjoy

pet get´s really fast butchered in a teamfight, and u can fear it in teamfights dot it, run a bit back and it will die if the hunt dont know how to take his pet back and heal it

gets nerfed anyway

void plague is really decent, if a priest dot´s me (and i cant dispell it) his full dots are 96% of my hp

this class is really good, and u should not care about 1v1, it´s too situational

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Actually I am not big fan of AB and since entire rep can be boosted in STV I am avoiding it for now. But what is your point exactly? Alliance or priest is better in AB or the course of the battle is more fun :sweat_smile:?

I really don’t buy it. I mean priest can’t escape from warriors which btw always break fear. And what else can you do when you are stunlocked by rogue without using insignia?

In teamfights yes, pet shoudn’t be such problem, but I specified BM hunter because frenzied pets can’t be feared! hence they are so annoying.

Well that’s impressive. Warr or mage I guess? I bet undead priest has upper hand here, having additional dot ( long cd though). But yeah, priest can finish off opponent after death too.

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Less painful to play it random, and less chance to get a premade, wsg is most likely full of premades/ sweaty dudes

in the past, it was like, that u tank warriors at level 60 and win the face to face fight, atleast it was in vanilla like this, now idk

well hope to resist a stun, if u dont have dispersion, it´s just a dead, currently, later one u get more stamina, and it wont be a issue

it´s same for rogue vs rogue but in this case i have to say, if this is a issue, then your positioning is more of a problem, cuz u have noone who supports u/ or can

i played rogue in the past, and i had REALLY often the situation, when i sap a player, some other peoples in the team, had him in target, and run back to him so the rogue wont open on him (its more like of having luck, be in a grp zerg and not alone)

i mean yeah, but isnt it a 2 or 3 min cd?

yeah they are, but after the burst cd it´s really controlable, i mean bm is always like cd go all in, if the oponent dont die, u die (most likely)

is it still possible to root them while they are frenzied? havent tested it cuz i play most likely a meele, if u can root him, get the spiderbelt, what can root him

they have. horde racials are by miles better than alliance races lil bro :frowning: come to us, we have also shamans!

yeah against hunt pet, u cant really do much as an sp if he goe´s frenzied, only thing what i can think of is to dot him, sacrifice health pot, or spider belt cd go into dispersion finish asap

and then try to heal you, if the pet is dead, cuz hunt cant kick you, if his pet is dead, u win easily

or go full wongo , dot the hunt dispersion, granade on pet, mindspike swd

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The most broken thing on SP is void plague…strongest dot in the game and a menace to those that have no dispel disease.
Hits for 210 dmg every 3 sec (atleast for me) is literaly devastating!
Lock is a dot class and his strongest dot atm is corruption and hits for 111 with haunt i think :stuck_out_tongue:

And about casting you are right, you cant cast at this phase but at p3 cause of Martyrdom you will spam spells nonstop without interruptions!

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combat in SoD is much more advanced than vanilla and we are not 60 yet.

Each class with runes hits much stronger and we are only buffed by 20% hp in bg. In comparison to vanilla/classic we get much more damage without so great boost to our stamina. Probably on 60 we will have just regular 60 lvl gear but with buffed damage unless it will be modified somehow.

Yeah 2 mins, same as dispersion btw.

Don’t think so. You should read that spell’s description, it says : “cannot be stopped unless killed” :joy:

It’s debatable I think.

Actually only affliction focuses on dots. Haunt is not dot, it hits 1 time and it increases shadow damage.
From the point of view next expansions, dots are quite important for shadow priest. And he is the biggest “dotter” after affliction :thinking:

and the best dispeler is other priest or shaman :sweat_smile:

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thats why i ask, have never tested it if this is possible, i know it´s immune to fear, didnt thought it is immune against everything even roots

well i have already allot more hp in bg´s than outside of bg´s and even then, it could be the case that they buff stamina or hp pool even more at 60 so it´s only a supposition here

i mean look at orc, undead, tauren

shadowmeld feels close to be completely useless in grp bg fights

only good racial on alliance what i can think of is dwarf racial

escape artist feels outdated in sod

human racial is a bit of a meme

not everyone on a uncordianted grp fight dispelling everyone, (i wish it is the case) i have done so many ab´s until 200k honor, and i got dispelld once in a grp fight :slight_smile:

wish these senior players would know how it works :frowning:

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Dispersion is by far the best defensive in the game, thanks to being as strong as it is on just 2 min CD. Absurdly powerful, when other classes have generally much worse defensives on 5-30 min CDs.

SP has the best defensives in the game.

SP also has some of the best CC with undispellable instant AoE fear and a 5 sec blanket silence on just 45s CD and 3 sec stun procs from blackout.

Great passive mitigation vs melees with shadowform, inner fire and shield.

Homunculi+shadowfiend for crazy pushback, great mana return coupled with dispersion, 2-3x more DOT damage AND twice the burst of vanilla with SWD I mean, it is beyond overtuned.

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Dispersion
Reduces all damage by 90%, and you regenerate 6% mana every 1 sec for 6 sec. Cannot attack or cast spells. Immune to snare and movement impairing effects.
2 min cooldown

Shield Wall
Damage reduced by 75%.
10 seconds remaining
Requires shield
30 min cooldown

:clown_face: :clown_face: :clown_face:

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Shadow Priests are currently strong at level 40. They always have been because of Shadowform. They don’t get more damage increases through talents on the way to 60 like other classes. But they are not overpowered. There are enough counterplays and they have weaknesses.

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Reduces all damage by 50% would be enough and no mana reg
alternativ, Dmg nerf

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Shadow priests are as overpowered as early P1 hunters and prenerf Starsurge druids, they are completely broken and any shadow priest who isn’t utterly dominating right now is just a bad player.

Not going to link my own gameplay but here’s a random video for people unfamiliar with how SPs work:

Yes, he can survive and kill 3v1s vs rogues with ease. If you can’t, that’s a you problem.

Disperse needs a 5 min cd or a reduction in effect or both. VP probably needs toning down too.

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A good player who knows what to do, played it well and had a bit luck against people who didnt play it well.

There already is detailed discussion just about this if you are actually interested and not just trolling.
[Shadow priest dot damage - #107 by Sajuuk-lone-wolf]

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I agree that these alliance racials lost value in SoD. I don’t consider tauren ability being good, but 10% hp is ofc decent.
Shadowmeld is very useful, maybe not in actual teamfights, more like ambushes, but anyway this ability has so short CD! and you can always drink being stealthed.
I think dwarf racial is strongest ability on use. It can really cripply certain classes damage, but mainly rogue.
Human racial may be a meme but it really exposes stealthed targets.

Increased to 15s from talent tree.
Warrior’s ultimates have long cd true, but that’s more like tank ability, it doesn’t take your dmg/casts away.
Btw it’s not like Dispersion in SoD is caused by too much imagination. It’s almost copy paste from wotlk.

Well, such defensive woudn’t make sense if you are unable to cast and can still die.

And gameplay doesn’t look this way in BG. Rogues start with cheap shot, not mutilate. Ferals are hitting not chasing like this…

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Games balance is not based around noobs, idiots and low IQ players who don’t know how to play. It’s based around an algorithmic mechanic where you have to seek the data and act accordingly. People still don’t understand this since 2005

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Here you have Perplexity with a 1vs4 as a rogue in “just” Classic WoW without Runes:

YouTube

Good players can do 1v2, 1v3, 1v4, etc. Says nothing about balancing classes.

In your clip Danny played against very bad players. The rogue used Ambush instead of Cheap Shot… says everything

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These guys are still defending this broken class. Shadow with warlocks were top 3 in pvp whole of classic

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Of course, we do because you are bringing no good arguments. I literally told a lot of weaknesses for shadow priest and how to counter them.

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Well guess What rank 5 trinket UD racial and disperse + bg hp. Remove every way to counter. Either way if you cant see your class is broken is ridicilous

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Everyone has it.

All undead have it.

Everyone has it.

Yes, we got runes too like any other class. You can give us Blink instead or anything else to escape. I mean e.g. rogues got Shadowstep. Warriors can always Charge now and much more utility for the other classes as well. Mages have 2x Iceblock for a total of 20 seconds 2x removing all debuffs.

I explained how to counter them.

No, sentences like these are ridiculous.