Shadow Priest Beta Changes - Void Form

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You are trying to make your opinion(posted witouth any viable reasoning ) into a truth…

Other people disagree with you…

Voidform should be a viable option even if that requires a tallent like legacy of the void… the other 2 options on that row should be ballanced with it…

This will give people 3 options to choose from… keeping the old voidform, turning voidform into a true dps cd, or doing something non voidform related.

The current legacy of the void, seems to be unballancing the other 2 options, as it seems to be weaker then the other 2. This needs to be tested extensively.

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Just because something doesnt fit your Gameplay, doesnt make it bad, or those who play differently a “noob”. And again… not many hate Void form. they hate blizzards inability to balance it.

well, i’d say the people fighting for void forms orginal Design are also a Minority here… so i wouldnt really be calling out “Catering more to 0.5%s”… its a Vast minority who want Void Form to realistically stay.

remember the game had 11 Years of Players Loving Shadow Prior this rework that completely changed the Specc and did enforce those changes on those that didnt want it aswell .

void form should have been viable from the very start.

Its proven im afraid, VF is Balancable… but not by blizzard, Unless WOW sgetting sold to a New Dev team i dont wanna see them give this another go. VFs fun. its a Unique Mechanic… but God Damn does it highlight the Inability of the devs team balancing this game.

All because 1 top 1% Player can do something cool with a Class, they feel the need to tear at it so hard the class Becomes some Limp Stick at borrowed powers mercy.

wouldnt suprise me if its designed this way… Do remember, this dev team love Drowning something before Removing it.

Demon form Warlocks being actively Nerfed to “soften the blow” of its Removal for example.

VF was a Good idea, and I doubt blizzard ran to this solution first… i’d imagine they too are irritated by having to remove this, they held out for 2 Entire expansions and Tried to bring it into its 3rd. They altered it several times with the VF Mechanic in place.

the fact is. they’re not capable of making it work ANd no matter how many times they try this… they’ll never get it to work. they bit off more then they could chew with this design. It either Launchs complete in one piece and Self capable and the games Systems run it up in so much power it dominants the Meta for a TIer… or they nerf it so hard… its only workable Once you have the Games systems to Support the design.

Mechanics like VF and borrowed power cant simultaniously exist. One has to go… and given they’re refusal to stop the borrowed power systems… VF was thje chosen.

past all this though.

I do hope they get legacy of the void atleast competitive with other choices to ensure those that did roll a Priest for VF and Did fall in love with legions design do get to keep a part of what they loved.

this post in No way is me telling anyone how to play nor advocating for the removal of what they love. I just lost alot of Faith in blizzards ability to make these more complex Systems work.

im not against VF Nor do i want it gone for the sake of it… I sadly Lost my main when VF Came into this game, so ofcourse my excitement leads towards the path its orginal Fantasy. but that doesnt mean i wish What happened to those of us that didnt like VF to happen to those that want it.

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I think that’s the bottom line of all of this.

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Amazing how “the great unpruning” turned into the great pruning.

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Good riddance.

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this argument simply doesnt make sense.

a Rework isnt a Pruning, and i think the concept on you is lost… the idea of Pruning is Actively removing things from a Specc, the Specc undertook a Rework not a prune… it simply didnt take a rework in Favor of what u want from the specc.

its really easy to sympathize with those who are Losing their Favorite playstyles… and Want blizzard to actually do this correctly.

but you make it ALOT harder.

all your progression is Made with healing… yet you insist on making Serious arguments on Shadow… Which is a Specc you dont seem to play in any competitive manner in the slightest Outside the likely solo content u use a DPS Specc for.

the problems are quite Obvious with this Talent… yet you are Trying to actively push this idea of “WE ALL WANT THIS TO STAY” yet it remains Obvious this is a Mixed Reviewed topic of People on both sides…

the concept is to find the compromise that doesnt leave either side of the argument completely burnt. and i dont think making a Fourth Specc would be hard either… all they need to do is

Take BFA Shadow… Change the name to void priest… take the New Design of Shadow Call it Shadow Priest and change the new designed Shadow to a Shadow Theme.

Players against Void form… get Orginal Shadow Identity back

Players For Void form. get to keep their Void identity.

Instead of Flaming every player who want the New Design and Trying to push a Narrative… why not spend ur time actually giving your critism towards their attempt to replicate it for you guys. cause that quite Urgently does Need some Feedback pushed against. maybe also play the specc abit :P.

the concept as a whole is Weak.

The concept of these types of talents have never had a happy ending, gladiator stance and more… all went to dumpster realistically.

The concept of a Talent Prevents it from ever being progressed… it also means every design choice from SL Onwards will Actively counteract the Purpose of said talent.

Take current DP for example… its Actively immediately unusable the moment you Use that talent… because it Actively goes against the purpose of the Playstyle given with said talent.

It’ll never be balancable… and it seems more like a Act of “slowly ripping the band aid off” as they’ll progress this new iteration of Shadow… and Simply proclaim "LoTV cant uphold its pujrpose anymore so we’ll remove it in favor for this new talent " Just like they did with every talent like this.

it needs to become a Full blown fourth specc if it has any hope of actually being useful, they cant introduce major changes to try make the talent work without Causing potiental balancing issues upholding 2 playstyles in 1 Specc

imho, if they do actualy wanna Do things Right for the playerbase wanting this playstyle… they need to make it a Fourth Specc and call it void priest… then just change the New Design of Shadow priest to a Shadow Aesthetic.

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