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I laughed and cried at the same time! I really tried a lot to play priest cause I like the fantasy of the class and also like healing, but damn shadow is just useless on the open world grinds. while you are casting your vampiric touches, another class pass buy, just look at the mobs with angry face and mobs die… at this state, is just comical
Shadow Nova (that works the same as Holy Nova) would be awesome. And it would look awesome.
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only affliction warlocks, cuz their damage very low unless niche content
meanwhile rogue/war/druid (in general MELEES) charge in faceroll and get 20k dps.
In the low content Vin is doing keys around 10 and normal SoD he will find his dps low .
For the vast majority of raids and m+ aoe is only needed for trash .
I could understand if he was doing high end but he isnt.
I’ll happily take a good shadow priest I know to play well over anyone else who I do not know. If I already have a mage/boomie/rogue/warrior/dh in the group, I’ll also happily take a good shadow priest. I had a shadow priest in my team in S1, and he did great damage.
You don’t need to have mind blowing AoE to get invited. You just need to be… well… not this: https://i.imgur.com/htxUiXW.jpg
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Meh, I like Shadow Priest in PvE.
Yeah, AoE sucks with only having Shadow Crash and Mind Sear, but I feel strong enough when it comes to single target and bosses.
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Forgot he was that 
in question.
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Well, more or less I agree, the BfA version felt better with multidotting (through Misery) or popping Shadow Crash for burst, followed by Mind Sear and keeping Voidform up.
Traditionally, Shadow is a ST spec, in fact didn’t have any AoE till Wrath.
If the DoT’s were buffed along with Mind Sear, and SN nerfed, AoE would be a lot simpler, but likely subpar, even with the mobility flaws since… you have to stop to channel MS and then pop SN, which isn’t easy to do with affixes like Quaking or Volcanic which force you to stop casting. Even with these, SN does a ton of damage, easily half or even 3/4 of it in a massive AoE.
It does need a rework or a proper alternative.
Not to mention the fact it’s a wheelchair spec.
Gief. And a shadow shield instead of PW:S!
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No worries, I’m happy to remind everyone! 
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Basically, don’t be Dolva?
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I see shadow priests completing +27 keys. One would think their aoe capabilities are fine?
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Higher the key the better it is as mobs have more HP.
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This.
The problem in game is people don’t take logic into account when looking at DPS. If you’re a burst class in faceroll content you will be top over a build up dps class. Everyone should know this OP and not judge you for it. If you do a +10 key the warrior in the group will know he should do twice your dps as you don’t get enough time, If he doesn’t, he’s brain dead.
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Maybe this will make it clear to you what the issue is. Shadow priest vs Frost mage rotation:
https://i.imgur.com/WDHHr2C.jpg
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But I’ve been told Spriest melts faces though.
How do you get from me giving you a macro so Searing Nightmare doesn’t feel “clunky” anymore to this?
Besides, if you don’t like playing shadow priest then don’t play one. Being a whiny baby about it in the forums certainly isn’t changing anything.
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dotting class may not be good for everything, it’s like asking why mage does not have more physical resistance… by design each class does one thing good, of course warriors excel in the midst of fight.
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Since when is this a new thing? Mage always had a super easy rotation.
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