Shadow priest solo too weak?

Hello. I leveled many classes without any problem but I am struggling with shadow priest. He is very “squishy” and at the same time he is not dealing good damage.

Also the voidform mechanic is not good for questing/solo since when you finally have the insanity to enter void form you dont really need it and even if you need it, you rarelly get its full benefit since mob die and you still have some seconds in voidform

I tried to switch to Discipline and while I can pull the whole zone without die its veryyyy slow at killing things.

I wish Voidform was like a 3-5 min cooldown like DH metamorphosis, as a big dps cooldown instead of this “pop in” - “pop out” mechanic. Maybe they will re-work it for shadowlands!

Now before you tell me to play another class, I really like a lot healing with my priest in dungeons and battlegrounds… I just have a bad time on questing

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This is why I boosted a Priest, with gear they’re pretty good, although definitely not the best. If you enjoy healing then levelling via dungeons is probably the better way to go and then once you have about 420 gear if you switch back to shadow priest I found it a lot more fun then.

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Indeed! I was enjoying shadow priest a lot from the very beginning, until the void form mechanic :frowning:

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SP is one of the most gear dependent classes in BFA, and it’s absolutely mandatory to have the Azerite Trait “Chorus of Insanity” otherwise the spec just sucks HARD.

The Void Insanity mechanic is inherently flawed for leveling, and clunky at max level… but Blizzard are too stubborn to get rid of it, and instead keep opting to use bandaid fixes for the damn thing to make it ‘work’. I hate it so much!

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All classes can in some shape or form level from 1 to 120, some classes have it much harder than other based on talents, the thematic of the spec and so forth.

Actually you wanna go 3x Chorus up until a certain crit %, after that you go 3x spiteful. For my priest downgrading my head from 480 to 465 to gain an extra Spiteful is still a 500~ dps increase.

But i do agree, if a priest is to big damage and you don’t you can safely assume Is a gear issue.

Voidform should go because is boring and bad for every content except raid, but when we are good in raid we get nerfed to the ground. (but mages smh are allowed to stay broken)

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ofocurse ur squsy u use cloth …

Sadly? Yes
Don’t worry, it will be worse after you ding 120
Without proper azerite and gear, pulling one mob is suicide
Don’t even think about soling a WQ rare
Vision alone? Yeah, right…
There is actually a reason insanity is the spec powersource
No sane palyer would struggle with this
We are all a bit insane, playing Shadow Priest
Eventually you will learn to enjoy the suffering and just laugh maniacly after each death, until something dies inside or breaks and suddenly you find yourself waiting these things
We are all walking in the valley of shadow…

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Yup. It’s not you; it’s the spec - and the decision by Blizzard to make us WEAKER as we level from 110 to 120.

I have read comments from people who Priest talking about dotting 4 or 5 and then using Void Eruption when the mobs arrive, but it really didn’t work for me when levelling in BfA. Maybe with 460 gear at 120 …

Oh, and

And btw:

Naah. Other clothies can cope. My Frost Mage was fine all the way, even from 116 to 120, when things are at their worst. My Warlock was mostly pleasantly sightseeing as he incidentally dispatched any mobs foolish enough to come within his aggro radius. My Priest, though, just had to learn to run away a lot.

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I never understood these types of complaints

its like complaining your palla main got wings as their burst cd instead of being like other classes

Its like complaining that you have to shapeshift as druid to use their specific form abillities

Idk, without void form shadowpriest just seems to be a more boring warlock, to me atleast

Every time I play Horrific Visions on my spriest I think to myself "this is fine :^)
And then I log on my BM Hunter and faceroll the visions while spamming the number 1 keybind.
HAHA

Laughs in Demo Lock

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yea imagine if paladin was very weak outside of wings and that you had to build 10 holy power to pop out wings for a short time and then back to being weak again… I wouldnt mind if voidform was a 2-3 min CD that boost our DPS, I would actually like it a lot. And druid does not get in and out of their forms every 15-20 sec…

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Bad examples

My point was that people pick a class, then complain the class’s main gimmic is bad

Then play another class! :smiley:

You miss the issue with VF:

  1. SP needs to build ressources to activate this “CD”. Paladin can use wings whenver, they do NOT need to build 10 HP to use it. Druids do NOT need to fight several seconds before being able to shift into form which they then lose again shortly after.

  2. SP damage outside of VF is FAR worse than all of your examples, which is only logical since the uptime of VF in a long fight is far higher than “regular” DPS CDs - but coupled with issue (1) this means your DPS will be worse while you fight small overworld mobs and right when they die you will be able to actually do damage. “Pull more mobs!” is not the answer either, as SP selfhealing is complete garbage. They have zero snares/roots and NO defensive CD that you can use while doing damage.

There are even more issues. There are mobs that require a regular interrupt to beat since they will heal (or cast some other important spell) on regular interrupt CD. Guess which is the ONLY CLASS IN THE GAME that does not have access to an interrupt with a regular CD?

SP also needs a FAR higher Item level than anybody else to solo some minibosses. If there are no stacking/healing mechanics you can bore them to death as Disc, sure, but if there are stacking buffs/debuffs or heals, this is not an option…and SP is absolutely miserable compared to almost any other DPS spec in the game for soloing.

I know there are some players who will jump in and say SP solo is “fine” - there is always somebody who likes something. But if you actually compare SP performance to almost any other DPS spec…it’s just poor.

Edit:
Obviously, mages have no access to a regular CD interrupt, either. And i honestly don’t even know the CD of the interrupt Warlocks can get access to by some convoluted summon mechanic/talent. Those are not “fine” in my oppinion either. But Warlock is a powerhouse for soloing stuff and Frostmage is far stronger than Shadow from my own experience with both specs. That may not apply to absolutely every situation, but i think it is true for the vast majority of them.

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Yeah except class was not like this.

Shadow priest pre Legion was completely different.

They completely designed shadow priest around Artifact and STM+ legendaries in Legion.

THEN

Removed Artifact, Legendaries and we got “saved” simply by a trait and by corruptions.

People complain because the class is bad designed, with a lot of gimmicks and super frustrating to play if not super optimized and without the bandaid.

Telling people to “play another class” is the most stupid things you can possibly tell someone.

VF needs to be more flexible because atm is bad and shadow is playable only thanks to insane crit.

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Excuse me? I’ve been playing this character since TBC… and I absolutely loathe its iteration since Legion due to Void Form + Insanity mechanic, which was a complete rework of the spec. Don’t brush off its issues, which you’re seemingly ignorant of, telling me to play another class… I want the class I’ve spent the past decade on to be fixed!

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Some people have picked the class many expansions before though when void form didnt exist at all.

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Oh I’m sorry I forgot to time travel back in tbc when I made this priest and tell myself they’re gonna eff it up in legion.

Totally my bad.

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