“I am ILLIDAN, demon! Know my name, for it spells your doom!”
… over and over and over and over and over… >_>
Not sure if he bugged out or if that was intentional in the quest.
“I am ILLIDAN, demon! Know my name, for it spells your doom!”
… over and over and over and over and over… >_>
Not sure if he bugged out or if that was intentional in the quest.
I think WC3 Illidan was a fairly textbook antihero.
Not really. It comes from the vision Sargeras showed Illidan when he burned Illidan’s eyes.
Yeah but as Ranying said, he did get over that eventually and wasn’t really motived by that anymore after WotA.
I don’t see it like that at all. It’s literally just a farewell letter to the two most important people in his life, Tyrande and Malfurion, and 1 extra message to the player. It’s not meant to make anyone revere him. Post-WotA Illidan didn’t really care about fame at all. He sought the Legion’s end by any means and didn’t care about what others thought about him or his actions.
remember how cried like a baby when Kil’jaeden showed up in WC3.
Good times.
“grr really hate the legion but they told me to blow up a continent full of people so I’m gonna do that to save my own skin I’M SUCH A GOOD GUY” - definitely not a villain Illidan
Nah, pretty sure he was a villain.
Illidan Stormrage: “Because I once cared for you, Tyrande, I will hunt down the demons. But I will never owe our people anything!”
Illidan Stormrage : Now at least the demons will no longer corrupt the forests. But, if I destroy the skull and claim its powers as my own, I will become stronger than any of Archimonde’s lieutenants.
Illidan Stormrage : Yes… the power should be mine!
Then there was the whole slaughtering the Night Elf village for…no reason at the start of Frozen Throne.
" Now go forth…
Unleash the tides of doom…
Upon all who would oppose us!“”
Or when he blatantly told Malfurion that he was working for Kil’jaeden:
Illidan Stormrage : I have sworn allegiance to a new master, brother. I have a great task to perform in his service. I’m sorry, but I cannot allow you to stand in my way.
Or when he admitted that literally all he ever wanted was power:
Illidan Stormrage: I understand, brother. Lordship over this world was never my aim… only power… only the magic. I’ve lingered here too long. I must go. By aiding you, I have betrayed my new master. If I am not careful, his wrath will be my end.
And then we flashback to just how hard Kil’jaeden had to twist Illidan’s arm to get him to serve the Legion (not at all)
Kil’jaeden: Illidan, in the past you have been both friend and foe to the Burning Legion. But, by consuming the Skull of Gul’dan, you sealed our defeat in this world. I come to offer you a second chance to serve us.
Illidan Stormrage: What would you have me do, great one?
Kil’jaeden: My creation, the Lich King, has betrayed me. He dared to break the pact that binds him to my will, but his spirit still lies trapped inside the Frozen Throne of Icecrown. Destroy it for me, and I will grant you your heart’s desire.
Illidan Stormrage: It shall be done, great one. It shall be done.
Then when he got rid of Magtheridon he just declared himself “Lord of Outland” and ruler of “all its denizens”
Illidan Stormrage: I have come to replace you. You’re a relic, Magtheridon, a ghost of a past age. The future is mine. From this moment on, Outland and all of its denizens will bow to me.
And then there’s the one I mentioned earlier:
Illidan Stormrage: Kil’jaeden! I was merely set back. I was attempting to bolster my forces. The Lich King will be destroyed, I promise you!
Kil’jaeden: Indeed?
Kil’jaeden: Still, these servitors you’ve gathered show some promise. I will give you one last chance, Illidan. Destroy the Frozen Throne, or face my eternal wrath!
Illidan Stormrage: Perhaps hiding here was not the most prudent decision. Still, the quest lies before us. Will you follow me into the cold heart of death itself?
What part of that makes him look like an antihero? Because he helped Tyrande out? Villains can be nice to those they love and still be villains. Being nice to one person doesn’t change that.
Ill paladin?
Basicly the only 2 persons he is willing to do good for are Malfurion and Tyrande; the rest can crash and burn for all he cares!
All of it. One of the primary characteristics of antihero is that while their actions are ultimately good, they don’t always act for the right reasons. E.g. Illidan consuming the Skull of Gul’dan for more power and then using that power to kill Tichondrius and later him trying to destroy the Lich King because Kil’jaeden told him to.
Antiheroes often are selfish in their actions and can sometimes be working for the villains with hidden noble intentions, like Illidan and the Legion. In essence, antiheroes sometimes do the right thing and only sometimes for the right reasons.
He didn’t have noble intentions in WC3 or TBC though - again, this was retcon’d and backfilled in Legion and the novel.
He was a villain. Unless you’re gonna tell me that Sargeras is actually an antihero too. Which he’s not. He’s a villain.
True, but I would say that he still had enough characteristics of an antihero to be called one. TBC made him a full villain but fortunately Blizzard saw their mistake and remedied it with Legion and the novel.
TBC just built on the end of Frozen Throne - that all denizens of Outland will bow to him. There’s nothing in TBC that they didn’t indicate would happen previously. It wasn’t out of character.
It wasn’t also as Legion tried to portray it that he was pulling some clever scheme over Kil’Jaden either, no he full out comitted to being his servant, but when Arthas kicked his butt he got paranoid and scared and simply just ran off to hide. The reason he is fighting the legion forces as well in TBC is not because he wants to destroy the Legion, but because they are coming for him specifically and he is trying to fend things off.
This is why his faction splits apart, with Kael’thas deciding to go back to Kil’Jaden and Akama deciding this entire thing was a bad idea in the first place.
And Vash just…actually, not sure, still trying to fight for Illidan?
We just have to agree to disagree on that.
It wasn’t but it is now.
I agree with this, regarding Illidan.
It doesn’t hold up for Kael’thas though. Not sure any character has ever been done more dirty by Blizzard than the good Prince Sunstrider.
Pretty sure thats the one universal thing both Horde and Alliance(or rather Warcraft) fans can agree on!
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TBC in general was a pretty shoddy mess.
Illidan, Kael’thas, Vashj, Akama and Co. were all presented as outcasts surviving together in Outland.
Even Vashj had redeemable qualities to her. Then Illidan was turned into an insane villain and Kael’thas a joke.
Vashj was just roleplaying Nestle’s business practices on outland.
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Lowkey true though
Since the Chronicles retconned Lady Vashj and her Naga to have always been instructed/controlled by the Old Gods to make sure Illidan would kill the Lich King (), maybe N’zoth will bring her back some day.
I wouldn’t be so sure about that…