Shadowlands = girl power

Isn’t it funny how you encounter a woman character in Shadowlands, she gets introduced as an all around badass.

Jaina is pretty much a one man army during her introduction in the Shadowlands. She practically is taking charge and holding back the Jailer’s forces single handidly. Not to mention that she wasn’t injured or anything in Torghast, she just didn’t know how to escape.

Same stuff with Tyrande, you try to find her in the maw and when you do you find the Jailer’s forced dead and scattered everywhere. Corpses piling up and all. One man army.

Then there’s Draka who suddenly became the biggest most fearsome warrior in all of Maldraxxus, despite not being one in her life.

I don’t think I need to explain Sylvanas.

Look, I am not saying that I don’t like this stuff, because I do like it, but when you look at characters like Thrall, Bolvar and Baine and look how utterly useless and incompetent they are, it’s clear that this is somewhat intentional and doesn’t really feel organic.

I feel like Blizzard focusing so much on female power fantasy, they forgot about the male characters, I don’t think that is the right way forward and they both should deserve to get in the spotlight.

Maybe next expansion we’ll see Thrall grow out of his midlife crisis, who knows, but I just want to remind Blizzard that there’s characters for everyone and right now I am not feeling it!

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Meh it doesn’t really feel forced tbh, there’s been super powerful manly men throughout the years already

No matter male or female character one thing makes their power credible and that’s growth of power. The coming from nothing story is always better imo then the you got powers cause gender. Take a look at the Mulan movie for example. Terrible story telling at it’s finest. I don’t care if an expansion has more male then female or vice versa as long as the story is interesting. Jaina having the power level is not exactly surprising given how long she has been a mage. Sylvie got her powers from the Jailer so i assume she is pretty much back the prewrath atm. Same with Tyrande.

In all irony both Tyrande and Sylvanas relied on borrowed power. Maybe that’s the reason people don’t like it? :joy:

Most of these men are dead or lost their power. Sylvanas, Tytande and Jaina are still rocking on strong. Even Khadgar is retiring…

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True. True. But that isn’t a reason for sudden, one-sided change only. In story writing that is a huge flaw. If they (Blizzard) want to make female Characters more powerful, they have to do it simultaneously while keeping up the strong male characters.

Otherwise they risk to upset one part of the Audience in favor for the other one.

But women are superior to men so it makes sense.

They should be equal, not superior. This isn’t some sort of fan kink story franchise :wink:

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Idk, is Velen retired?

Girl being strong = positive woman character building

Guy being strong = toxic masculinity

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Tyrande, Jaina and Sylvanas have been badasses since their introduction yeeeeeears ago. Draka on the other hand does feel rather forced. There are quite a few male characters that would’ve made more sense in her place such as Grom or Orgrim or even Durotan.

Not that I mind Draka it just came out of nowhere really.

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Did you miss the fact that she was empowered by Elune?

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I think it’s best if we report Tyrande and Sylvanas for using third party boosting services. They clearly have an advantage over others.

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It’s almost as if she’s had 30+ years to practice.

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What kind of representative girl power do you speak of? As we know, Sylvanas and Tyrande got borrowed powers and humiliated by the writers.

I will never serve!

As yelled out by Zovaal’s errand girl after serving the living frostmourne for years and ignoring Anduin’s warning before she dominated him.

As for Tyrande’s revenge, it went from a death penalty to merely recovering the lost souls in the Maw. Although neither will rebuild Teldrassil, Sylvanas penalty work has the potential of being done faster and more efficient by technological and/or magic means, so she could be done and freed from all responsibilities tomorrow if the writers desires so.

Also forgot about the forgettable Jaina Proudmoore. She was badass in the Maw intro, but from then she became an insecure Frost Mage of inaction the whole expansion. Despite her powers, the writes managed to humiliate her too by making her appearing indifferent to everything between the raid cinematics.

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If anything, I would like to see a female as expansion villain for real, as a someone we can actually kill in the endgame. I don’t see why the writers only wants us to kill male/masculine villains.

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Which is irrelevant given he was beaten to a bloody pulp the xpac before that while being surrounded by her primary element. She also states that she was a broken mess during her time in torghast. Her “me stronk” was more annoying in BFA to be fair.

Because she was wielding the power of a god. Also Illidan could have done the same.

She was loyal. Wouldnt really call her strong. Decent at best. And as far as Vashj for example was concerned you as the player was regarded as the “this person can wipe the entirety of maldraxxus if it wants to”.

No you dont. Her writing in general didnt make any sense in Shadowlands. Especially since she was fully aware of what power we wield and who we faced before. The odds for her winning against us, regardless of jailer buff, was 0.0001%.

Kael’Thas was good. As was the Primus at the start (aka pre sanctum storyline). Renethal is also nice.

Alsoooooo

Hes over it since a while. He just accepted that misusing his elemental powers is gonna backfire and that he was very much responsible for the whole garrosh mess.

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^ this. Honestly, it doesn’t really matter to me if it’s an all-female game or an all-male game, as long as the powers are well-written. Which, they aren’t, and haven’t been for a long time.

Jaina relies on borrowed power aswell considering her staff is supercharged.

I actuallt think Thrall throwing away his axe at the first sign of trouble and then spending the expansion looking for it was really empowering.

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It was really empowering to see Bolvar getting jobbed by Sylvanas in a HQ cinematic only to do nothing relevant in the Shadowlands while getting berated by his daughter on how much of a bad neglectful father he was.