Yeah I know what ?
But I had things to do x4 convenants. Real things to aim for an collect.
I could pug m+
I was allowed to have fun
Tww , do 3 WQ’s for a key to do boring delves.
M+ sucks , I’ve done them as tank , heal dps and they just aren’t fun. In Shadowlands I had fun throughout all 4 seasons.
The reknown factions … utterly boring and add really no narrative to anything I’m doing. The reknown is so heavily gated it just doesn’t feel fun or rewarding. All the good stuff locked at the very end aswel means you feel like you have to get there to justify your time.
higher reknown unlocked new quests in both SL and Dragonflight. In tww I’m 20 on all nothing new pops up.
I think Castle Nathria is far more enjoyable first raid than Palace. Palace is just a snoozefest , don’t stand in stuff fight repeat.
SL had real rares , had real treasures. Tww has nothing like that. There’s nothing to really explore in TWW , it’s too cut and clean. If you do the zone questlines , you see everything. There’s no hidden spots.
Tww has 1 pretty zone , 1 okay zone and two boring zones. SL all 4 major zones were unique had flavour.
Torghast and Delves are equally boring to me.
I’m not the only one feeling this way. I’m seeing this being compared to SL on trade chat, my guild is comparing this expansion to SL.
SL was deemed worst expansion ever , yet it’s more fun , yes more fun than TWW
One problem with this is that TWW has only just started and there are a lot of ways it can go. Plus, the game has been fundamentally improved since SL at its core (gameplay, UI, class fantasy). We have a few months of TWW to compare to two years of SL, so I think that it’s a little premature to make this comparison and would be better made at the end of TWW.
I would rank the box product (pre patch content) of Shadowlands above The War Within as well.
I think what detracted heavily from Shadowlands was the lore and story, as well as a strong sense of mandatory grinds with Soulbinds and Legendaries.
But in terms of meaningful content to do and a satisfying sense of reward, Shadowlands did a lot better than The War Within so far has.
I don’t think it’s rewriting anything to say that Shadowlands was the lowest rated expansion of its time, and that now in the future there’s a new contender for being lowest on the totem pole, so to speak.
SL s1 was grim from what I remember. Looking at the endless dullness of Maldraxxus was not an easy thing to do. In fairness, Ardenweald and Revendreth were interesting enough zones but the story was dull.
At least in TWW there is a sense of foreboding because we know that things are about to get pretty wild.
I believe the foreshadowing hints at some Goblin stuff, which tends to be rather whimsical and loaded with slapstick humor, but we’ll see.
I don’t personally expect the first major patch to blow anyone away in terms of the epicness of the place we’re going or the enemies we’ll face or the ramifications of the story.
Blizzard tends to like their fillers between beginnings and endings, so it’s easy for players to get back in late in the expansion without feeling like they have to do the outdated middle part.
Well I mean the Goblin stuff had escaped my mind, but yeah that’s not massively exciting.
I was thinking more about the long-term story telling which IMO is being excellently handled with regards to Iridikron, Xal’atath, Illidan, the Titans and Sargeras. This to me feels like something big is on the way. I do think that by the end of even TWW, we will be in a pretty exciting place.
Sure, that’s why I’m here still. But I would wager that Blizzard intends to spread that stuff out over the course of the whole saga, and have a slow build up toward the finale, to string along as many for the entire journey as possible. And that journey will likely first reach its epic conclusion in ~5 years. That doesn’t really change the here and now being somewhat…eh.
No, but there is a sense of something coming. It’s a sense of being part of a special story that is being told and that feeling was not present in SL or DF; though I would say that there was a sense of foreboding during BfA before they made a mess and rushed N’Zoth as a patch.
I get where you’re coming from though, so I’m not being argumentative or anything. Just pointing this out because this forum is full of attitude most of the time lol. I enjoy delves a lot also so that is making this expansion feel a lot better to me, personally.
Why? It’s an extra zone.
Shadowlands had 5 zones on release. The War Within has 4. I struggle to see the logic in The War Within being the superior here.
Sure, you can throw in some personal subjective feelings and say that you thought The Maw was terrible. But then I can say that The Ringing Deeps is dog crap. So…
jesus christ. the initial maw. the idea of the eye was nice. the problem was the total uselessness of the zone. a pain in the a@@. and korthia? packed with a million of mobs. and half empty of any goal or wq.