In short the posts above.
What you look out for is the stacking debuff to 10 stacks, that increases the damage of the next Shadow Strike.
Well aware. Still allows you to get the normal 5k hit out, plus the 22k it starts to be quite the decent hit. As a remainder the other biaised guy said : ānothing in arms arsenal can hit half as hardā.
and you thought bfa couldnāt get worse lel
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and then you do what? it is not like you can remove the debuff
so you can prewall and not get opened on you you just die.
if you open with shadowstrike you cannot do anything. losing 10% dmg doesnāt even matter having this numbers
It is not like the rogue need to open immediately once you have 10 stacks.
Isnāt it the same Jungle team anyways? And ofc many warrior they face but it could actually be that these are 3 warrior teams you face on that mmr cause the amount of players at that mmr is drasticly reduceed compared to lower mmrs.
The 3 Jungles is 100% Hydra Tony and Kasu all the time
You must be a lucky one, never seen anything like, neither me doing or nor being hit by it, except on a training dummy. Are you playing with 0 vers? 
And even if we suppose you were hit by thatā¦itās still not half of 46k 
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If he does it directly from stealth he loses 60% damage to that Shadow Strike.
He then cant have SoD 15%, ShD 30%, Potw 5%, weapon enchants 11%.
Its a gimmicky one shot that should be removed, but you are aware that its coming through the stacking debuff.
The char I was playing on was my second Rogue, full 226 except for the CC breaker trinket, no sockets, so thatās 30.96% versa iirc.
That is also the highest Iāve seen. 2x OP, 2x Exploiter, Avatar, WB, Orc racial, MS.
Also 22k + the MS proc for 5-6k (normal MS value) is more than half of 46k. I know you arenāt the math genius but come on. I typed this above.
I donāt know what math you are using but in our world 22k < 46k / 2 (we are talking one MS or now we are talking many MS hits?).
Also, you got critted for something high once in a year and you come here with it to defend the crap rogues can output on every go.
Watch some Mag stream, he does nowhere this damage you dream. Occasional stacked MS crits - 10k. Condemn crits - 9k into mages and ferals (for example) lower even on other stuff.
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You forget to subtract DA.
Otherwise add 15% to Arms.
33k is still pretty much 1 shot for many people even at 100% hp, are you by some chance defending this and coming from a spec that can do it from stealth and in a cc?
Really? I know about Shadnox, heās delusional and will defend with whatever means crap like that, but you are usually not that low.
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Yeah i defended it with:
Yeah. Im sorry you dont have the bare minimum of working brain cells.
It will not be 33k from Steatlh:
You definitely are in the 2 digits IQ. Jumping on the āBut msā¦ā bandwagon as excuse for accepting something like that is not defending a point.
I was wrong, you are that low. Whatever, you may continue doing mimimi here with Shadenox and salivate over āBut msā¦but condemnā¦ā nothing you say anyway matters, nothing anyone of us says here matters anyway to the state of the game.
So gain your:
Would either be 40k from the Rogue or the Arms would do 31,3k with procc.
Also For the Rogue to do that it takes 2 GCDs not 1. So you can also add an 16-18k Condemn in the mix for Arms that would bring it up to a potential 50k in 2 GCDs.
1 GCD less from the Rogue would take it down to 18k.
Emphasis on proc, so it is only one ability, one press of a button doing all of that.
The reading skills are strong with this one.
Watch high rated Rogue streams then, no one ever hits that hard with Shadowatrike as no one ever plays that build as it gets stopped every single time. So, I used the exact same argument as you, whoās right mmh ?
And once again :
But thanks. You really need to learn how to read a text before you talk about it.
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No Rogue defended this.
No Rogue defends Venthyr.
No Rogue thats sane defended Kyrian, that in my opinion was worse than Venthyr now.
No Rogue should ever defend MA.
What Rogues defending is that Cloaked and Dagger and the constant restealths are necessary to do damage since the whole specc sadly works around MA.
Cloaked in Shadows ! Cloak and Dagger was that dumb talent during MoP I believe that allowed openers to teleport you to your target 40 yards away.
But yeah btw that guy is going warrior mode, full tunnel vision activated āyou dEfeNdā when I actually only criticised the thing. Literally blinded by his made up ideas. He just wants me to do something and even if I do not do it he will consider that I did because thatās how he wants it to be. So w.e.
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Thanks the naming of these in the past expansions just get worse and worse.
Everything needs Dark or Shadow in the nameā¦
correct me if i am wrong but neither ShD nor SoD are on the gcd and can be applied in the same millisecond you are pressing shadowstrike?
weapon enchants are not factored in most times anyways so you essentially lose 5% from potw?
you donāt even need to play 1 dance for the crazy dmg. i mean it will still hit for 40k+ which is mostly enough to delete someone.
this game design is whatever anyways. If it is gimmicky or not doesnāt matter, at least it is way easier to pull off than e.g. mage pyroclasm which also has no place in pvp.
anything that does more than 30% in one hit has no place in pvp
This is correct, but with pressing ShD or SoD you lose Stealth and 25% damage to shadow Strike also you lose 11% from the enchants adn 5% from Potw if you dont CS with AA before.
You could press ShD+SoD+Trinket+Vanish+Shadow Strike in 1 GCD of the cost of 16% damage.
They really procc the second you open in the Arena. Both. They are assured, especially for this build.
1 Dance is 15%. Dark Archangel is another 15%. As the threat got named one shot correctly every bit counts. You stack as much possible and put your win on that one thing only.
Without then Potw and Enchants the 46k ends up being a 26.5k (there CB and ShB are already factored in).
Only because you took away CS, Dark Shadows and Dark Archangel, while still the need to commit Vanish.
Edit: I forget FW with 30% Armor reduce if you dont CS also that on cloth is also about 6%.