Shaman Buffs and Other Classes - The issues of BfA pruning

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TRIGGER ALERT THIS IS MY OPINION DO NOT MAKE FUN OF MY RATING PLES

EDIT: Resto Shamans didn’t receive a buff. They should, tho.

Blizzard needs to fix the numbers pertaining the unviable specs in PvP until the next expansion comes across. They need to switch a couple of values for each class and they’d make most of the unviable specs decent enough so that they can survive until next expansion where, hopefully, we’ll get a (unlikely) full rework for each.

Disc priests can still only que up with rogues and mages, if they que up with anything else they just get trained to death and flop like a sack of potatoes.

MM hunters are ready to turn their gun on themselves and pull the trigger rather than be forced to keep shooting confetti. The damage can be alright, their utility is wack imo.

Enhancement Shaman is pathetic, it got overnerfed and it needs to be brought back to viability. Their healing is essentially cut in half compared to Elemental, and their damage is practically nonexistent outside of their small burst bubble, which is still mediocre at best. Elemental can also kite better, enhancement needs to stay in melee to do significant damage.

Arcane Mage got slightly buffed but it is still in need of help. I do not know too much about Arcane, never played it, but I feel like they need to buff their damage or buff the hell out of their CCs, make Arcane the CC-heavy spec, Frost the heavy rooting, slowing and good dmg spec and Fire the brainlet Gpyro spammer. You have serious damage and are tanky enough, you can’t also have amazing CCs and mobility.

Affliction Warlock and Demonology warlock need to do more damage straight up. They’re turrets with a lot of health and armor, so I think if they nerfed a bit of armor and health and gave them more damage with a bit of kiting added (port baseline for example) they could be in a very good spot.

Finally Frost Death Knights have been utter and complete trash ever since the start of the expansion. We got buffed slightly this patch but they were mostly PvE changes to Breath and our rune regeneration. I don’t want mongo Frost DK to make a comeback, but seriously we don’t have anything other than Chillstreak which requires a very specific condition to be used.

Blizzard could bring back the artifact talents we had in Legion, such as Ambidexterity and Nothing but the Boots, which increase obliterate and frost strike damage by quite a bit, both off-hand and normal. We can’t have Frost Fever and melee autoattacks do 60% combined of our damage, it is insane. Buff Obliterate, buff frost strike, nerf deathstrike healing if you want, but give us something to do more than negative damage to people. (No, I don’t play UH.)

Let me hear what you guys think. I feel like it’s inexcusable to keep all these specs out of the PvP scene for so long without any sort of reason other than having the meta: “deVeLOp OrGAniCallY”.

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Arcane mage is not bad by any means , people like you is ruining the game , asking for top tier specs for more buffs . like com on man

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All right, Alphaslayer. Can you tell me how Arcane Mage is good in the current state of the game? I don’t know about you, but I have yet to see a single Arcane Mage in PvP outside of random battlegrounds. If they’re not that bad, why is nobody playing them? It’s the same thing for the other specs; people choose the best specs to go with because all the others simply cannot compete in comparison.

I’m asking to level the field and bring the mediocre specs up to par with all the others so we have more diversity in terms of spec representation, care to tell me how that is going to ruin the game my friend?

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Because people always play the strongest possible spec. Frost/fire is way stronger , but that doesn’t mean arcane is bad. Arcane can teleport through pillars , it has alot of burst , it can cast and dmg go through pillar like Lasso. Also it has decent Aoe . the spec is totally fine and it received 6% buff 2 weeks ago. Also if i am not mistaken arcane have a trait or a talent gives them a spammable shield which make them fairly tanky.

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I’m aware of your good intentions , but asking for arcane buffs triggered me , hopefully every class is on equal ground for a fair gaming experience :slight_smile:

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As said, I’m not too well-versed on Arcane Mages because I never played one, so I am going by what I’ve seen with my own eyes. I couldn’t tell you if they are good or not, I just know they are non-existent in arena, and I feel like that shouldn’t be a thing. You see people switch from Frost to Fire all the time.

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You are talking to a warrior. Ofcourse he wont agree with arcane buffs even if they tickled. They are just a complete counter with their mobility on top of a spammable snare.

Arcane damage is fine. Doesn’t need anymore. Problem is fire and frost are way stronger. Fire is literally the only spec that hasnt heard of a global cooldown, allowing them insane burst, and frost has such good control with two spell schools ontop of decent damage.

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Isn’t jungle viable now? And how is it with php?

Dunno about arcane mage damage now, but I think their toolkit is fine (personally I found it to be the most fun of all the mage specs) and I believe they are already suppose to be the mobile spec of them all, no need to add in more cc than what they already have.
If they are still lacking something then it’s probably damage.

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Both are good

This you already have a hard time in them as a melee since you can’t catch them.

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Buff enh already i got 440 weapon from raid dont want to waste it

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Nowadays Arcane at low levels way stronger than other classes. I really enjoy playing this spec in both pve and pvp contents. I just started leveling my mage so I don’t know how Arcane feels in endgame content. As I know spec seems not as good as other. I guess damage buff was expected but that’s not enough to get it up in damage meters. I’d like to finally up mage to 120 and try different essences. Don’t know how’s it called but probably there’re a few essences that could randomly activate burst spell and other do regenerate mana.

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They are extremely strong in 1v1’s and their damage and selfhealing as well.

Its just that frost has more control (obviously) and fire more burst, due to greater pyro, meteor and combustion.

Arcane is also very vulnerable to interrupts, as all of its spells share the same school, unlike the other 2.

But it is absolutely a viable spec.

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Bring back mongo frost dk

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