Shaman power nurf

When will this happen?

Every class is slowly scaling as they get new abilities which boost their characters power ( survivability/damage/mobilty)

Enhancement shaman though, the 2 handed rune is a nurf, with the duel wield chest spec rune, which makes both weapons attack, and then with a lava lash attack can give 5 fast attacks with a good chance of hitting windfury, this damage far out scales a fast 2 hand swinging (taking into consideration you also dont gain any hit % unlike duel wield rune which gives 10% hit).

As for windfury, the numbers are in and proof is there, windfury is a nurf if you take it over rockbiter, if it scales better at level 60, well we need around another 6 months or more to know, so going windfury will weaken your damage, why?

Rockbiter, with the go to rune for legs (especially in pvp)(works in pve also as your damage is 3rd/2nd from all specs so you cannot agro even with it on), gives life %, crit reduction chance, and 10% damage reduction as a passive, even if you go shamanistic rage to weave into totems before you even start a rotation which does not feel fun btw, the mana regen scales from attk power, which you want to use rockbiter on both weapons to maximise the mana ulitility. Windfury does nothing for this, you *might get a spike, but you really wont. Its gutting to see a key skill which defines enhancement shaman being a token skill which really, you wont want to take. as for pvp, you wont get close enough to anyone without rockbiter on to even try and hit somone with a windfury (which is pure chance it even procs, and the hits can be parried/miss anyway). Every class is scaling with damage abilities due to stats on items, yet shamans gain Attk power from raw stat on items, or strength, once they hit 40 and can wear mail, item customisation is set for mail to have agility as the main stat as strength shifts to plate. So again, lvl 40+ enhancement certianly wont scale the way other classes do with stats.

The raid numbers are still terrible. the bonus utility from Windfury totem is pointless as feral druids have the most iconic enhancement ability, but earlier on in the game.

Silence still effects every ability - if you are a tank and get silenced as enhancement, forget about generating ANY threat as you cannot do anything. I cannot talk to resto as i have not seen any, and elemental, well it shares lowest dps with enhancement.

Is this class going to be looked at i wonder, as the scaling problem with items will not go away. The abilitys do not syndergise and nurf you and punish you for taking your most iconic abilities.

It all seems like easy fixes, but its worrying they are not concerned at all, despite last phase both shaman dps specs shared the bottom 3 slots with shadow priest.

this is a problem that will get worse. And its worrying that classic shaman will not get the quality of life it needs, (spending 7 seconds placing totems to scenarios, having to prep before you evcen start doing anything is not rewarding). Shared cooldowns, or unable to place a totem set you design for different encounters.

Its insane the numbers and facts are out there, yet still its just a … maybe buff lava lash by 20%, this is going to be a huge problem later down the line, having to play one phase in a terrible state was barely worth it, now we have to do it again in another phase?

But … they ignore facts, the class progression was telling, when nearly 30% (28%) of the player base main roles hunter because its… well lets be honest fun to put nothing in and get good results is pretty telling.

Makes you really wonder what on earth is going on… or maybe its telling if anyone involved with balance is playing SOD, its obvious which class they are playing, and are not.

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I understand your point and hopefully my answer won’t sound toxic or personal but Blizzard doesn’t care about class balance. You see how they react - ONLY if the entire community is complaining about something then we’re overnerfing it so they can stop complaining. There are not enough shamans out there playing the game so I really doubt that someone will even read your post from Blizzard so I kinda feel bad for your lenghty post. :frowning: GL tho <3

yeah, its just a bit sad overall, im looking at either just play a hunter and chill, or i dont know, maybe a mage they seem insane in what they can do.

What I find completely baffling is how they managed to make melee hunters top dps, and not just by a little bit, but somehow it seems impossible to make enhance even middle of the pack, or close to middle of the pack, instead of rock bottom.

You ever get the feeling the Dev’s or whoever does balance, just really likes their hunter and will “nurf” but actually adjust so its op somewhere else. But i am glad i was not the only thinking… wow this dude hits hard for a range class…

Yeah i dunno its all a bit nuts, the problems will come out in the long run, people will switch the FOTM, and i cannot blame them,
You can pick any car, but one is better, in all aspects then the rest, you will eventually pick the same, and then any sort of investment into characters will go out the window as people will actually switch to whatever is best, and not because it does 2% more dmaage, but i mean when classes are dominating everything else, in phase 1 Hunters were doing over 3x enhancement, elemental, forst, shadow. You dont need to nurf, maybe if they just bring them in line so theres a smaller gap between the top, and the bottom, dont nurf the top, just make the others better and buff them.

Its just nuts, like do you level to 40… and then wait for months that maybe phase 3 things will get better, or just reroll now :smiley:

I don’t know about you, but i’ve been rocking DW Enh with WF+RB and loving it. Maelstrom just pops off left and right thanks to WF and Stormstrike, fluctuating a bit on dps, but having no problem keeping 250+ dps.

We are, after all, a hybrid class…

Thats interesting, mainly because you are the exception, but i guess if you are weaving lightning bolt in with mealstrom maybe that could be it?

Are you 40 with BiS im just curious?

If they can make an absolute meme spec like melee hunter top dps they can make hybrids decent.

Just give it a time, and by that i mean few months .

All 2 enha got is 2hand now, maaaybe MSW but that isnt stacking super fast. Meanwhile dw sham has like 3-4 runes and better scalings , as 2h u are either hit or miss and if u miss few in row then well…

But blizz should realy make their minds, which direction they want enha to go, because as of now there are 3 ways to play it, then there is ele and resto, and if we get 6-7 runes for 5 “specs” each season then this is gona sux.

As a ele i have one new rune that increase my dmg and even that one is not working properly and is minimal dps increase…

When a utility class complains about not being #1 while being one of the best support classes. It’s been a week. Relax. They will make tweaks.

Mainly Chain Lightning due to the increased damage, and close to fully pre-bis

I dont care about first but atm we are the worst dps in raiding ( Wow logs)
And we are falling way behind everyone else.

As a tank I feel great, but I also worry about the other specs. Yesterday, when farming SM, I would never take shamans into the group. I would take a healer priest and 3 dd (2 mages and a lock). That’s all you need to know about the current meta…

Well, i had my doubts but i must say, it looks pretty fun. 2h WF might not be a thing for Raid but its deff. fun for dungeons and PVP. u gotta adjust things a bit. i have all points in enh.tree, got a mix of Enh.+Ele Gear and Rune is Lava burst, shaman rage, totemthingy for mobility when slowed, mealstorm. u just go towards someboday, drop a binding totem to avoid the first spell, get the dummy totem thingy if slowed, hit with a flameshock and hit them with an autohit / Stormstrike combo. there is often a WF procc and mealstorm is at 3+. one more autohit later, u might already have 5 mealstorm ready and out goes the 800 dmg 100% crit lavaburst. this dish can be topped off with another stormstrike and an earth shock a few seconds later. it hurts a lot.
so yeah, the 2h rune in combo with some talents with a pinch of lunch and some skill/timing, u can kick butts.
its situational and that is ok i think.
u dont want it to be epic in all situations just to get nerved to nothing 3 weeks later.
shaman is a good support. u dont need to be a top DPS if you pop a heal here and there, have the mana totem and strength totem going, hit that shaman rage mana regen. its a team effort. chill and enjoy the occasional nukes in pvp and dungeons. it can be our naughty lil treat.

In this time and age you either play fire mage, destro lock, tank shammy, disc priest and melee hunter or leave the game, it’s that simple. The gap is too big and other specs are severely undesired in any kind of PvE.

We’re complaining about being dead last, actually. Below tank warlocks, just above the other tanks and healers.

That isnt that much of an shaman issue rather than mage lock issuez their dmg is beyond broken on aoe no point to bring anything else, no matter what u play