Shatter for all specs again

Shatter should be reinstated in the class tree. Such a fun mechanic and would make better use of all the frost spells available in the class tree.

A mage without shatter is not a mage really.

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It was in the class talent tree in the first iteration of mage talents, but they changed it. Honestly, I don’t really like having to do shatter shenanigans as fire or arcane, but it’s a matter of taste I suppose.

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Yes. YES. AND YES!
The day they removed it and replaced it with this boring passive that we have now, my hype for the expansion literally collapsed.
Just give us a decent pve option node and call it a day, don’t remove the most fun mage PvP/leveling mechanic just because M+'ers don’t like it.

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Shenanigans? It adds an extra dimension to mage combat. Setting up massive shatters has always been my favorite part of the class. No other class has a similar mechanic. The combination of control and damage is the epitome of mage class fantasy imo. It´s a waste having it as frost only, especially with their abundance of Ice Lance and Flurry procs.

Water Elemental, Flurry and Shatter to Mage general tree ty!

Literally just put it on one of the choice nodes. One choice is the passive you have now and the next is the old shatter skill… Done right? As the passive itself works on shatter so it changes the main skill interaction either deterministic or rng passive so to speak

Water elemental would need to get some interaction with other specs for that to work, which I’m guessing they’re too lazy to do. If they did though it could potentially be interesting.

Shatter just doesn’t work very well for the other specs as they don’t really ever freeze anything in PvE.

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Water elemental could be Phoenix for Fire and Phantom Beast for Arcane. For example.

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Oh dear, you’re like a pack of wolves circling the deer. Frost is actually looking to shape up quite nicely for DF even though it has issues with over proccing (and why someone decided to force Cold Snap upon us is beyond me) and immediately you fire and arcane wanna rip it apart and share what’s left of it. Shoo! Go away!..ah ah ah, I can see that water elemental underneath your robe. Give it back.

Edit: Actually, you can keep the elemental, I don’t use it anyway.

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Fire and Arcane are fine. Frost Tree is terrible.

Shatter should be available for all specs like it was from the beginning. No idea why anyone would want the elemental for all specs. Mages aren´t shaman.

Maybe it could be a pvp talent for arcane and fire. That way it can’t be exploited for big aoe in pve instanced content but still fun to use in open world, arena and especially bgs.

Frost tree seems great to me up to the last section. Icy viens is so dominant that it makes the long casts of glacial and ray of frost anti-synergistic. They could add something to rival the IV builds (seems unlikely at this point) or add IV buffs to the others. E.g Glacial Spike adds 2 seconds to your IV duration and Ray of Frost freezes your IV buff while channelling.

Because it gives Mage A RANGED AOE ROOT. Obviously for PvP people.

It doesn´t fit the other specs IMO.

Bump. Please bring back shatter. make it a choice node with overflowing power.

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