Hi guys.
Ok Shimmer has been nerfed a “bit”: 20 sec to 25sec CD.
Blink is 15 sec CD, so in a fight seems we will be blinking more with Blink than with Shimmer, or at least the same, because even if we have two charges… is +10 sec CD… for me seems a lot.
Yea, Shimmer doesnt interrupt cast, which is awesome… but old Blink can remove stuns.
Arcane mages have Master of time talent which seems awesome… Alter time cd reduced to 30sec and RESETS Blink. I think its so good.
Frost and Fire mages dont get anything new… Blast wave and Blazing soul for Fire and Glacial insulation and Ice floes for Frost…
So, do you think Shimmer is auto-include now in pvp? Even on Arcane??
Wouldn’t bother with it personally, it’s just too much of a nerf at this point. Especially considering that melee mobility is either remaining the same, or in certain cases even being increased.
Perhaps if you could get your hands on a 5 second Flow of Time conduit, which would decrease to cooldown of Shimmer to present levels, but god knows where, when or if that’s going to be available. But even then, you’d have it competing against a 10 second regular Blink.
Blizz seems to be a little confused about how talents work, they’re supposed to make your character better, no ifs, no buts, not give you one thing in exchange to 3 negative effects. It’s a talent, not a PvP talent, there should be no downside or tradeoff for picking it. It is literally the only regular talent in game that has a trade-off, no other spec has that.
They should kick Shimmer’s effect trade-off onto a PvP talent and replace it with a talent that grants 2 charges of Blink. Or better yet, just make it baseline, if they have to nerf something into oblivion to make other talents competitive, then it should just be part of the base kit.
Depends on a what kind of pvp you playing, if you only care about arena, than you cant play whithout shimmer because of way that you can poly a healer when he is licking pillar.
But if you playing duels, than shimmer is worstest talent ever, and who use it is simple dumb, because one of the most common and dungerouse type of cc type here is a stun, most dueling classes have a stun and if you have blink+acces to other talents on that row its become a better option, especially fire talent that gives you free shield after blink (that shield will also heal you in sl, thanks too a conduits, so free shield every 10sec, only threat is spam purge classes like shaman and sp)
There is exeption in duels, like fury warrior using 2nd charge talent instead of stun talent to be able to heal more vs frost, in that way you can use shimmer and thats will be a good plan
Thats kinda clunky and awkward though. You’d have to waste blinks sometimes just to make sure you would be able to blink the next stun, but you don’t have the luxury of just throwing blinks away vs anything really… you need to use them carefully or they won’t be there for when you really need them (to kite or to secure CC etc).
It really wouldn’t, at least in the PvP scene it wouldn’t… do you realise how strong Shimmer is?
The fact you can blink around pillars while casting polymorph is insanely valuable, the only way I could imagine they of set Shimmer is if they put Deep Freeze in the same row over Glacial Insulation.
Shimmer was basically invented to compensate for the loss of Deep Freeze in Legion.
With Deep Freeze, and before that in Wrath people did so much dmg that even a small stun on a healer could result in someone dying. So landing Poly’s wasn’t as pivotal. But when they reworked the game to a more CD based system in Cata that changed, and thats where they added Deep Freeze.
All true. And there’s more mobility generally now to empower pillar-humping.
STILL, give better options. Even if we’re mostly always picking shimmer. Even if we only use the others for 2s vs double dps. It’s just good and interesting to have good options.
Like you idea about putting deep freeze on that row. Miss that spell! It wouldn’t be OP either as you’d be giving-up shimmer for it. It’s an either or kind of scenario.
That’s a fantastic idea, you could have Shimmer/Deep Freeze/Blazing Speed (or perhaps Displacement?) on that row, all heavily desirable talents with multiple uses but you’d only be able to take one - which is how a talent choice should feel!
It would be so much better than the current setup, even going into Shadowlands Arcane is the only spec that has more than 1 fully viable talent on that row.
While that is a cool way to fill the row up I feel like Blazing Speed would end up being a dead talent since it doesn’t stack up to Deep or Shimmer, even in PvE Shimmer is valuable because you can blink to and from mechanics without it disrupting your casts. Its obvious why Deep and Shimmer are good in PvP so no need to explain that. They’d have to add something to Blazing speed to make it competitive imo.
Also, want to mention, don’t give Deep Freeze to Fire, Fire has DB to land sheeps on healers, I doesn’t need Deep Freeze.
I wish deep freeze would make a return and frost bomb aswell they never should’ve gotten rid of them. Currently in beta ice lance spam is the way to go it deals ridiculous damage its pretty boring