A realm where all add-ons are disabled and all character information is private to 3rd party systems?
You have your RP-PVP, PVP, Normal and new player type realms.
Is it time to introduce a “Casual friendly” realm?
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No.
2024-03-08T00:00:00Z
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That realm is going to be dead.
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I don’t often agree with Elahra, but I do in this case. It will be dead.
We have enough problems with ghost realms, sharding etc as it is, do we really need another way to spread the player base?
Also, anyone on this realm is basically never going to be invited to any serious content. It will introduce a weird place where you to declare what addons you have to be invited to pugs.
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No.
But add-ons should be killed and the game rebalanced to account for it.
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I’d be interested in rolling an alt there, just to play the game in a very different way than I do now.
While there is 0 chance that I ever play in that realm, sure, I do not see why not.
Player base won’t be really spread, since there will be hardly anyone playing there.
Never going to happen for a simple reason.
The game is playable because addons exist.
For 20 years blizzard has been ignoring UX and the UI has been as bad as it gets. Recently they started doing some work on it, but it is nowhere near at the level you can comfortably play without it getting in the way.
They will not just throw away all the work addon developers do to make the game better, when they can just disable specific functions for addons when they do not like something (like restricting certain api functions, or using private auras).
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No add-ons doesn’t sound casual to me. It’s pretty hardcore to play this game without add-ons that make it more accessible and customizable.
As for character information being private, I suppose this is largely about DPS meters? I feel the solution to low damage isn’t to hide that information from others that you play with, but to try and improve, using the information that add-ons make available to you.
The thing is, when you play with others, and your “performance” affects them, that information is relevant to their experience. Imagine you keep wiping at a boss and you don’t know who is responsible for it. It sounds like a recipe for toxicity.
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It can be a start, I say why not.
These realms would need a hard mechanical difficulty reduction, blizzard has often stated that endgame content is designed with the knowledge that people use addons
that is their design borderline expects you to use them to succeed.
As such, a realm without addons with no changes to difficulty would be the opposite of a CF server
A realm without addons would be an interesting experiment that being said, I just don’t think calling them casual friendly would be appropriate.
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No the game wouldn’t work otherwise or this would seriously gut the fun content
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Bringing back PvP servers would be a start…
As a ‘casual’, why should I be deprived of add-ons?
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ERP server for sure.
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Addon’s which are used as tools for self progression are fine imo.
It’s when addons are used as tools of discrimination and exclusion I start to have issues with it, Sure if you want/need a DBM Bar to show you a boss ability so you can act accordingly … Fine.
You want an addon to see other peoples performance metric’s and IO and ilvl’s then I would have issue but the main issue with the OP’s point is that there has ALWAYS been tools and methods implemented by the community ever since Vanilla.
Blizzard are aware of this type of discrimination and actively have promoted it by implementing IO Score and I-LVL columns within the group finder tool.
Sure we have come a long way since standing outside Molten Core and being inspected by a Raid Leader to enter the raid entrance but the principle remains the same.
I do however think that Addon’s which gather “personal” data about your in-game performance should have an options in the settings “Opt Out of Data Sharing with other Addon’s” as of currently I could join a group with a bad group and healers not healing or something and die early on in boss fight and end up with 13% parse in WCL which I did not consent to sharing with and then someone could exclude me from a fight based on that 1 performance.
It’s not like anyone would force you to reroll onto this realm type.
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I don’t think anything will work as a new realm type but you could certainly look at setting up your no addon community or something similar. I have seen some communities do no addon raids etc for fun.
Realms importance has been something they’ve been trying to phase out and are carrying that forward into TWW. As the playerbase isn’t as large as the height of the game in Wrath (but is still significant) some realms have found themselves less populated. We have seen Blizzard try initiatives like Connecting Realms which are essentially merges but where everyone is allowed to keep their names using the old realms as a tag. They removed PvP/Normal realms with the introduction of WM on and off. Much of the game can be played cross realm and now cross faction too. Going forward in TWW guilds will no longer be limited to a realm.
I wouldn’t want to play without addons but I’m sure there must be enough like minded players out there to start a community. Set up a discord, organise events etc.
I think playerside addons are fine, bartender, dominos, cooldown trackers etc are fine, the addons they need to prune are the ones that interact serverside, DBM etc that just play the game for you
They design most of the PvE encounters in this game with clear visual/sound cues to alert you on mechanics, if not there is a cast bar, this should be the intended way of playing the game. But the leap from ‘‘DBM is detrimental to game development’’ to ‘‘ALL ADDONS NEED TO GO’’ is bit much.
No, we should have the mega server.
It’s insane that you got like 6 servers with most players and 30 others with minimal amounts.
How difficult is it to grab all those servers and bunch them up into one or two?
(English EU i mean) But, the same formula can be applied to other regions/languages.