Shred of Insanity

Blödughadda-twisting-nether · January 30, 2020, 10:51pm

Out of curiosity. After how many normal boss kills do you deserve to craft mythic gear?

Tahra-earthen-ring · January 31, 2020, 9:07am

Oh yeah, it should be attainable through different means for sure.

Sounds like you have an elitist mindset. I don’t think of it in terms of ‘getting mythic gear’. Rather I think of it in terms of: being able to craft upgrades for my character. Why in the holy hell should that require mythic raiding?

Mahmeya-darkmoon-faire · January 31, 2020, 11:42am

So it’s okay if trivial PvP drops them and trivial PvE doesn’t? I’m not saying they should drop from WQs but the should at least drop from the assault chest or visions.

Blödughadda-twisting-nether · January 31, 2020, 5:36pm

It doesnt require mythic raiding. It requires 200 normal boss kills or 20 in HC (quite low tbh)

It shouldnt drop alot in anything trivial.

Tahra-earthen-ring · January 31, 2020, 5:36pm

It requires raiding. Period.
That’s limiting and bad imo.

Blödughadda-twisting-nether · January 31, 2020, 5:37pm

Apparently not since you can get it in BGs and arenas aswell?

Tahra-earthen-ring · January 31, 2020, 5:38pm

… you’re taking the piss now. Stop trolling.

That’s my whole point: if it’s available in casual pvp, it should be available in casual pve as well. End of story.

Blödughadda-twisting-nether · January 31, 2020, 5:41pm

So you want to be able to farm mythic gear doing WQs? Please now…

But yeah it shouldnt drop from BGs either, can agree with you there.

anon70585577 · January 31, 2020, 5:42pm

200 normal kills is excessive. Normal bosses should drop 5 shreds each. It would also be nice to be able to get them from M+. I did a few Epic BGs since Wednesday and I have not gotten a single Shred of Insanity, either. Maybe before it was too many in the first week (I didn’t try it then), but getting zero now sucks, too. And of course, no mention of it in the patch notes. But hey, at least the MoP farms were mentioned.

For me, one of the bigger issues with the game has always been that there aren’t multiple equal ways of getting “stuff”. Take tanking trinkets for example. For several tiers now, the best (and in some ways: only) tanking trinkets drop in raids. Why? Raids don’t have a shortage of tanks, M+ and other small-group content does.

Blödughadda-twisting-nether · January 31, 2020, 5:57pm

If your not willing to step up in difficulty, yeah its going to take some time. Sounds about right to me. You get HC gear from 20 normal kills.

Can agree its wierd that it doesnt drop from m+.

Tahra-earthen-ring · January 31, 2020, 6:02pm

Well, I didn’t actually say that, did I? If you look at my previous comments, that’s made pretty clear.
But… even if it would be WQs: That’s not really that much of a stretch compared to BGs.

I’m an anti elitist, so I disagree. I do think that PvP and PvE should receive the same kind of treatment though.

Grovi-silvermoon · January 31, 2020, 6:04pm

This thread’s comment section : ‘‘y i have to raid to get raid gear wtf blizz’’

Tahra-earthen-ring · January 31, 2020, 6:04pm

Raid or die is soooo 2006. We SHOULD have other options.

Druchi-wildhammer · January 31, 2020, 6:08pm

Not really, as you’re severely limited on where you can get them pve-wise. For someone raiding, you’ll outgear that slot long before you can craft for it. And that’s not even considering corruption.

Blödughadda-twisting-nether · January 31, 2020, 6:09pm

What else is there though? Getting shred of insanity from clearing old raids?

There are other options. However getting mythic gear shouldnt come from trivial content.

Tahra-earthen-ring · January 31, 2020, 6:40pm

A % chance to get them from rare mobs in Uldum and Vale.
A low % chance to get them from elite mobs in Uldum and Vale.
1 Shred from the invasion completion chest.
chance to get Shred of Insanity from an Emissary Quest.
chance to get Shred of Insanity from a Horrific Vision chest.
Drop from LFR bosses.
A way to actually CRAFT the Shreds with materials (should be expensive and/or have a cooldown).

And there’s plenty more ideas…

Viable options? No.

That’s your opinion and I disagree. And so does Blizzard because they currently ARE dropping in trivial PvP content!

Cróws-defias-brotherhood · January 31, 2020, 7:44pm

The horror of people being able to use their professions to craft gear.

Blödughadda-twisting-nether · January 31, 2020, 10:43pm

Well I dont think crafting mythic gear should be a thing. First its a pay-to-win thing. So I got my 200 shred early and payed about 600-700k gold rolling bis stats on ring, hands and legs. Well most people dont have that kind of gold laying around to be able to roll bis stats on all of them. The randomness of the crafting system is just idiotic all around but yeah thats wow these days.

Second problem I see I shouldnt from 2 HC clears be able to craft mythic pieces in 3 gear slots before I even set foot in mythic.

Mahmeya-darkmoon-faire · February 1, 2020, 7:19am

Which is the problem of BfA professions since the start. Professions were already screwed in Legion (the gear could be upgraded at the cost of an arm and a leg to HC dungeon level) and BfA took it even worse - getting to 150+ requires way too much mats (40+ ore per piece) and the gear is obsolete before people can use it.

This issue is just another symptom of BfA’s screwed up professions and the over-inflated ilvl growth.

An issue as well, I wonder why couldn’t they keep the WoD system of having a pretty cheap ‘reroll stats’ item instead of forcing re-crafting, especially at the current absurd material costs.

Yinke-silvermoon · February 1, 2020, 7:29am

the only good craft item is eng head. it can still be upgrade by the time focus got upgraded, can’t say the same about all other craft items tho