That would explain why the HC dungeons pool is now the same as the mythic dungeon pool sigh
Moaning you can’t do pointless content. Two thumbs up.
Do some weeklies and WQs and shwoops, you’re 567, no big deal. Did it with 4 chars already the past WE because I hadn’t geared them after the max lvl campaign - ah, those quest rewards help too, btw.
It is from LFR too I think
It is not though, the best was in the beginning of the expansion, doing heroics and crafting gear with crests. You could do that at lvl 555
If I am leveling solely by dungeons (as it sounds like OP is with one of their characters) then I would expect them to drop gear that would allow me to enter the next difficulty level: Heroic. That’s how it’s always been, that’s how it should be!
That doesn’t mean there couldn’t or shouldn’t be other ways to obtain the gear necessary, but if the logic goes N–>HC–>M then the lower tier should offer (the chance) at good enough gear to enter the next tier, you should not have to go do delves/wqs/wtfe just as you shouldn’t have to spend gold/more or less grindable currency to buy good enough gear. That’s an option and obviously should be an option, but your first choice should be the lower level tier of the instance you’re trying to get to.
Caches are soulbound, not particularly alt-friendly imo; then there’s upgrading gear which requires you to grind crests and valorstones on your alts, too, bc for some reason they certainly can’t be traded between your warband - not that alt-friendly imo.
But as they say: one man’s trash is another man’s treasure, and I’m glad somebody thinks Blizzard is alt-friendly (I am being sincere btw)
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And it’s not that this gear level is really required to do heroics. The difficulty is pretty low overall. If you gather a party of like-minded individuals and go there without lfg, should be fun.
On the other hand, doesn’t buying reputation gear from major fractions close this gap? I’m not saying that it is a correct thing to do, but looks like a workaround for alts in particular.
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They drop 580’s…
Not really. Sure if you take that one part out of context.
Not really, it is only 3 items, also, you do need a lot of currency for it.
there is ton of content to do .
dugneons / WQ / Dvelves / crafting /rep gear etc etc
just because you choose not to engage with it doesnt mean its not there.
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I like current version more, heroics droping 580 gets alts ready for normal raid.
Also thanks to this will keep them relevant for better curve, lvl up by normals, world content or warbound gear, heroics, raids.
I managed to lvl and gear 2 chars after the change, both were lfr/hc dung rdy in less than 10 minutes after getting 80.
You need keys for delves, there are no catch-up mechanics for that for your alts. Crafting requires crests from Heroic dungeons, if we talk about 590 ilvl. Rep gear is ONLY 3 pieces and they cost lots
Have you played in DF Season 4?
Not the point. The point is Normal dungeons should award high enough level gear to enter Heroic dungeons which in turn should award high enough gear to enter Mythic dungeons.
Whether or not there is “ton of content to do” and whether or not that “ton of content” grant the ilvl you need is irrelevant. It not a matter of “is there somewhere else you can go to get gear to enter HC dungeons” it’s a matter of the expected progression for dungeons go Normal–>Heroic–>Mythic, and lower tier should make it possible to enter higher tier.
This is the exact same thing PvP’ers tend to complain about: Having to go something outside the content they’re interested in to get high enough ilvl to engage with the content they’re interested in.
I’m not saying there can’t or shouldn’t be more than one way to reach the goal (in this case of ilvl 567 to enter hc dungeons), but I AM saying making it impossible to achive this with normal dungeons is weird and frankly stupid
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You can get bloody tokens while leveling and it’s 20min job to cap weekly by sparks of war quest, no need to pvp. Just WQ’s and treasures.
You get 593 gear from them
It is not 20 minutes
You do the quickest WQ’s and dig up wax. Did it with 4 characters one of which was not max level yesterday in 90mins. WQ’s are 10 sparks and waxes are 5-15 sparks.
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This is a bit of a whinge about nothing. You can get to 554 easy. But there also other easy ways to get gear. Warbound gear is plentiful for one, world quests give explorer and adventurer level gear which is all upgradeable. And then there’s the 2 weekly boxes which give veteran level gear. World boss can drop champion gear and delves give gear early on which is comparible.
The topic is that you now need 567 
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For me, it’s truly incomprehensible that raising the minimum requirement to 567 is causing an issue, when you can reach this iLvL from normal gear in just a few hours. You have the option to do World Quests, buy items from the Auction House, and every week you get 2 chests with items that have a higher iLvL than 567. In my opinion, we are once again at the point where people are asking why the game doesn’t just hand things to us without any effort on our part.
No, just asking why did they change it a week ago without any note and why in DF S4 the system was different, also, it is question for alts, it should be easier for them to do these things. Now they also nerfed the amount of valorstones you get from Heroic dungeons