Has anyone else noticed the quiet ilvl increase for heroic dungeons? It’s now suddenly set to 567, the same as for LFR, with no communication from Blizzard about the change. Previously, in Dragonflight Season 4, the progression was clear: normal dungeons, then heroic, LFR, and finally Mythic 0. Now, with normal dungeon gear capped at 555 ilvl and no upgrade path, what are we supposed to do?
This was supposed to be an alt-friendly expansion, but now, in order to even enter heroic dungeons, you’re forced to grind world content and hope for lucky drops or spend the few delve keys you have(I have 2 on my alts) on lower-level content. It feels like the smooth alt progression path has been completely disrupted.
Of course, people will say you can just buy Renown gear and transfer currency between characters, but let’s be honest—one piece costs around 1.5k of crystals. What if you have several alts? This is getting ridiculous!
Before anyone jumps in to say, “Alts shouldn’t level only through dungeons”—why not? I’ve already completed the story on my main. Dungeons are fun (especially for healer alts)
Why hasn’t Blizzard addressed this issue? Is this an intended change or just an oversight?
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Yes. My old post was about this. I made my 80 fresh paladin, dropped 554 from normal but for HC are req. 567 and blizzard is quiet. What a joke, don’t expect much from this company, they don’t work but just recycle 
I say as a 12-year veteran of this product.
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“This game is alt-friendly, we respect the players’ time, and other lies”
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It is weird that suddenly being in full normal gear no longer qualifies you to be able to queue for Heroics. It feels like the itemlevel dropped in Normal dungeons is too low. A change from 554 to 567 would be welcome. Sure upgrading exists, but who would invest into upgrading normal dungeon gear?
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There is full 564 from the AH, very cheap this gear you can also upgrade.
Easy 567 
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It is not cheap (though I do have gold.), but I don’t understand why do you think it is normal solution. It worked fine in DF season 4. It is about progression
It was probably a harmless mistake when raising the ilevel of heroic gear drops.
Not everything in this game is a vendetta against the player.
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To be fair I dinged 80 yesterday and was in HC 10 mins later due to my alts.
But in saying that they are harder due to the older dungeons in rotation and reward 580’s now so I can see why they increased the ilvl req. They either forgot to buff normal dungeon loot or something else messed up.
Now them doing it stealth isn’t cool they should have came out and said they increased it and why.
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sincerely isnt so difficult to reach ilvl for heroic. im above the fence with 3 chars. and im barely playin 1 hour\day
You could say so, but gearing alts for LFR is pretty annoying and nothing was ever addressed. A company this big can’t have such “mistakes.”
The ilvl difference between old loot and new heroic loot is only 9 levels, yet the requirement for heroic dungeons is now 13 levels higher.
If they want us to gear through delves, they should give us keys or catch-up mechanics for getting keys on alts
It is, especially if you are unlucky with chests
Anything that has the slightest inconvenience against the players in any way is “a waste of players time”, an active campaign to make players play for longer and that Blizz utterly HATE their players. Not because of anything else at all /s
How many alts do you play? On my pala alt I could play heroics and then suddenly I am 12 lvl behind the ilvl req, sounds fun yeah
Two weeks ago you could go spam heroics after normals and craft items with crests that you get from heroics, now it’s a complete joke. Why do they change such things after few weeks in? Why did they change fast leveling as well?
You can’t upgrade normal dungeon gear
you can get caches with 584 itlv already on level 70 when playing alts.
its ultra alt friendly 
you just cannot open them till you level 80
I was able to flip some pieces from 300 to 20k… Nice change 10/10.
Being serious it’s total nonsence. Do they try to tunnel even more people into delving?=)
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And pray that rng will give you the right items? In DF Season 4 you would run Heroic dungeons and do those in order to get into LFR
same 
rings and necks are the problem, and I dont understand why do I need to spend my goblin gold on these while in DF S4 I did not have to. You can sell them without this dumb change though
I think they’re trying to phase heroic dungeons out in a sneaky way.
If you make the required ilvl 567 and the heroic dungeons themselves drop 571 then nobody is going to bother with it when they can just do world quests, weeklies and delves to catch up, thus Blizzard can just point at the low engagement for Heroic Dungeons and say “Oh look nobody is doing this content let’s just scrap it going forward”.
This change was stupid. I logged into my monk the other day and couldn’t do heroics after doing a few previously. Heroics are pointless content they were finally meaningful and they make them a harder to get into. May as well just do delves.
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I totally did, but the change increased market capacity significantly-) I’m not sure if neck is still a problem, I believe you can get a good one from the campaign now.
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Because buying things is always the best, More power faster and easier.
Thus why raids should have more BoE’s
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Yeah that is weird. Of course fully gearing through normal should qualify you for heroic - anything else is crazy.
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