Simple fix for WW Monk in Shadowlands

Classes Monk
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Hello everyone,
I think that Windwalker actual gameplay is quite good and it needs only few fixes to really shine. Since I cannot post on the Shadowlands Beta forum (https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-monk-class-changes/142105?u=panzarotto-draenor), I’ll post here my ideas:

  1. Get Whirling Dragon Punch baseline and fix the animation (it’s not necessary to get horizontally stucked). This will leave space for a new talent that can enhance or change playstyle
  2. Swap Serenity with Storm, Earth and Fire so that if someone still wants to use this ability can choose it as talent
  3. Remove Hit Combo talent and replace it with something similar to Strike of the Windlord
  4. Let Invoke Xuen, the White Tiger be a real DPS cooldown (not a pet)
  5. Let Invoke Xuen, the White Tiger, Crackling Jade Lightning and Fists of the White Tiger damage scale with Haste
  6. Remove Eye of the Tiger talent and replace it with something similar to Chi Orbit
  7. Let Zen Flight to work similar to Druid flight form

What do you guys think?

P.S. Sorry for my english but It’s not my main language! :slight_smile:

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I dont think hit combo should be removed, i would like to see it buffed. Rewarding even further the good use of the spec mastery/mechanics.

I also really,REALLY need energy regen to be alot better than this. Whatever you do there is a point that you just dry out and that is the fun killer in the most fun spec i played in wow so far.

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I rarely run out of energy with 17% haste currently and I throw a Tiger’s Palm for every other spender I use for the vast majority of time and when I get to throw 2 spenders in a row I’ll certainly have energy to TP again on the next gcd so really it takes me a long long fight to get to the point where I have no energy to TP and can’t use any spender thus having some downtime. That said I have never played without Ascension in BFA and that’s probably the reason why I can press a button on every single GCD with no downtime at all. It’s just a playstyle choice I guess.

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We need a biiiiiiigggg buff

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I believe CJL is going to scale with haste in Shadowlands. Some pretty nice stuff here tbh

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This is a good change! Also the fact that “Spinning Crane Kick’s damage is now increased by up to 6 unique targets” is good. But still I think that is too little… let’s hope for “We’re also aware of many bugs related to Storm, Earth, and Fire, particularly in relation to other spells. We’re making every effort to improve the reliability of this ability”.

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Aye, they’re aware of the problems, so they pushed out what they could before SL. The 70% buff to Rising Sun Kick is going to be huge.

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1: Bring back the MoP version of SEF ( including the trancedance: transfer part).
2: Bring back Tiger Eye Brew.
3: Change back the mastery to Mastery: Bottle Fury.
4: Also wouldn’t mind getting Chi Explosion back.

This whole “Don’t press the same ability twice in a row or you will deal less damage” is one of, if not, the laziest mastery designs I’ve seen in a while.

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I actually like it, to each it’s own I guess, no matter what they do they can’t make everyone happy. If they take that mastery away how do you suggest they buff us all the damage we will lose on mastery?

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The mastery feels like a dance, but yes it is boring we already have the talent hit combo for that

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That talent sucks and is way less powerful than the mastery, if you want one gone then have the talent gone and keep the mastery. And no, the mastery is not boring, you should maybe take a look at some other classes/specs mastery, at the end of the day we all have different tastes and to each it’s own. I’m just glad we’re not all devs or we would end up with dozens of versions of the game as we all envision how the classes should be differently from each other. Just let the devs work. Also be careful what you wish for, if we lose our current mastery we lose 30% our dps in my case, don’t know about how much mastery everyone else runs, losing 30% of my dps? No thanks, unless they compensate those 30% elsewhere but it’s a hard gamble I would rather not put it in the line.

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I like the mastery its like a dance it is boring tho but I do not hate it

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  1. I don’t think monk needs anything more baselines. If you remove this talent then What would you even replace it with ? I would prefer to see at least one competitive talent on the tier.
    2 . Same as above why take talents away from the tree you could maybe move it to be instred of hit combo which also cover point 3.
  2. I like the invoke abilities, they feel thematic for monks and there a really cool anima power in torghast that means you can get multiple celestial out at ones. I think i had 4 at one point.
  3. Yes fully agree.
  4. you could remove the whole tier and i don’t think people would notice. This tier along with 35 and 45 all need an update. I would like to see more damage tier in the talent tree in general.
  5. would be a bit silly but ok i guess

just to add can they not make transedance and transendance transfer one button?

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14 and 5 are lovely.

Xuen pet is cool, but it should be a thundering monk transformation, harnessing the power of xuen itself.

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Number 1 I can’t say anything, i started in bfa and still love the class design. There are a thew things i wanted to be changed.

Number 2 and 3 As i mentioned I don’t know how that worked. For the mastery I like the bfa version, it is entertaining but still if you get used to it a little bit boring.

  1. Can’t say anything about that but sounds interesting.

For me WDP should be baseline. Serenity could be our base burst and WDP is not reliant on cds.

And SEFc is a lvl 50 talent for Serenity. For WDP we get an improved WDP where crit dmg is doubled.

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People who want whirling punch bag are people who started playing in Legion and never experienced the greatness that was Hurricane Strike.

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Hurricane Strike is nearly the same for me, just another animation. But WDP baseline and HS as a talent to replace WDP? An option for both styles

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More than 1 month later, 2 weeks from xpac, and we only got this change from this reasonable list. We are abandoned by devs.

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Bring back the legion version of strike of the windlord
Bring back the legion version of strike of the windlord
Bring back the legion version of strike of the windlord
Bring back the legion version of strike of the windlord
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