Single target DPS problem in Boss fights as fury

Hello fellas.
I have little problem with single target DPS as fury.
I use good azerites, have nice stats, analizer don’t give me any advices.My avarange score on bosses is 50precent where i’m Play on legion as enh shaman and there Shaman was one od the most rng dependent spec in the game and i’m was have easy 80+precent avarange score.
I see warriors with 90score, see their reaplays, everythink and can’t find solutions.
If any good warrior read this, please look on my logs gear etc, is very frustraiting when you try so much to progress your own progression and don’t realize where is the point.
Sorry for any eng mistakes, i’m write this on telephone and i’m don’t have that good english.

I’m not warrior expert as i have only Fury as an alt, but i think you have too low haste… also i just wonder how did you manage to get that ilvl if you claim that your st dps is trash? :stuck_out_tongue:

I belive my haste is on good spot with those azerites what i have, and if no the gap can’t be that high to solve my problem.i’m don’t have terrible DPS, i just hungry for more and i don’t know where is a problem on single target encounters, aoe i am doing fine.

Try get 20% haste, its a breakpoint.

Get a new helm, and also try get a simmering rage and reckles flurry azerite trait.

your trinkets kinda suck, the butchers block is okay, since you have few cold steel hot blood, but try and get razor coral and inkpod from EP.

easier said than done though, this rng loot fest is super sickening and sucks.

Last but not least, are you using the benthic gear when raiding? you should try get them with sockets, prioritise: Boots > wrists > gloves > and get the +2% aberation dmg belt aswell.

If you have alts use them to farm the benthic gear and use your main to lvl the items, if you haven’t got them already.

I think its the benthic gear holding you back, if your rotation is good.

Also what azerite essences are you using?

for most fights go with:

condensed life force as major… for some fights you can use blood of your enemy.

Crucible and lucid as minors. Use protocol for the aberation bosses.

You have better EP progress than me, but i have slightly higher logs, and from what i can see, i think its the benthic gear holding you back, and some azerite essences on some certain fights.

try change what i said and see if that helps.

You have about the same level of gear as me and you also have way worse secondary values.

Your haste is too low, you want 20% as that’s where it’s really felt.

Your crit is too high. 29% only gives four extra crits of hundred hits. The only crit numbers that matter are 20%, 25%m and 33% as they’re directly divisable with 100 and results in every 5th, 4th and 3rd hit being a crit respectively, on mathematical average.

You Mastery is also low. You want more Mastery as the increase to damage when you’re Enraged matters a lot over time and you’ll spend a lot of time Enraged.

I have, depending on time of day, 20% crit, 21 Haste and 43% Mastery unbuffed and I’ve no problems with single target DPS.

you have 0 mythic kills? and haven’t finished EP heroic?

I would’t follow this advice at all.

If you are using cold steel hot blood as fury, you want as much crit as possible.

cold steel hot blood is one of the bis traits and you want to stack it also.

arcana your not up to date… so thats complete trash :slight_smile: and your dps logs are trash mr 20-28k dps :stuck_out_tongue:

Was CSHF´B changed in 8.2 or 8.2.5 to have the Rage effect Stack? I consistently sim higher, when I diversify, may traits instead of stacking CSHF. So please tell me what makes it so good.

Glad to see two people are of the elitist opinion that unless you’ve cleared X then you’re worthless to listen to or reach a certain benchmark. What they really mean when they say it like that is that it’s only good advice if it comes from them, else there would be no point in insulting me like that.

At least Cecoura has the good graces to actually say something against my arguments instead of as Cräft Ad Hominem me.

i did say something about your arguements…

I told you why crit is good and why you should stack it becouse of cold steel hot blood.

and i pointed out why you’r arguement is invalid, it can maybe help new players out. But if they wanna reach another lvl its kinda useless.

i never intended to make you feel bad, this is how criticism works, some people can accept it and improve on it, and others take it personal and get offended.

now answer this.

if you went to a fightclub and wanted to practise or improve your fighting skills.

would you listen to the guy that trained there for years and have several belts and accomplisments and experience.

Or the guy that watches tv showes and has done 1 intro class…

this is why people bash out on arena ratings or mythic kills, if you haven’t even been at the lvl they play at, they wont take you serious. The chances of you knowing what youre talking about are rather slim.

You said nothing about my arguments and even if you did this would invalidate it

You posit that it’s better to listen to you because I’ve never finished or done X without even considering my reasons except “must be bad.”

Your internal logic is inconsistent.

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He already has it stacked so those two pieces of advice are wildly opposed to each other.

You ignore these things subconsciously as the brain will do anything it can in order to protect itself against cognitive dissonance, I do notice it. It’s impossible for these absolute statements to all be true as they conflict with each other and it’s clear that they are and that’s your cognitive dissonance. Both A and B are true despite that if A is true then B has to be false and reverse.

So yeah, this is the reason I say that only advice from you matter and everyone else should be ignored.

just ignore him ^^ arcana just spreading brainless farts in all Forums ^^ dont give him more gasoline … he loves to discuss ^^

yea i can tell, its waste of time ^^

Since you’re unwilling to answer my question then you should write it down and send it to raidbots as it seems to be in disagreement with that Haste and Mastery is worth less than Crit, until you hit the breakpoints, after which Mastery is still higher in the stat weights than crit.

You also seem to be part of the problem as that attitude cause DPS to mess up in the search for higher numbers rather than adapt to the effects of the Affixes.

Since you’re also unwilling to answer my question and prefer to take an air of condescending superiority you should send your discovery that CSHB is the best trait ever and should be stacked for PvE DPS to them since they only recommend one if you have the option to stack them.

I agree that stacking them for PvP is super as it helps with Warriors being made of wet cardboard.

I’m don’t look forum in a dwo days, sorry for that.
About stats, i just suggests what simulation says to me, and 90% people says that, if you don’t know what is good for you from gear “sim yourself” and i have page raidbots in one finger.Also in most time i’m stick with dungeon setup trinkets and rest items.From logs you can conculude what items i am using.I have myth Coral and heroic inkpod in trinket spot also ofc benthic gear in raid fight.
My problem is not taken in stats or gear or ofc essences, only from the mistakes i don’t see
I’m try to get gear such as guys from top 100 logs and i know i have everythink to do good dps.
Mayby i want too much from forum and people, mayby i’m just don’t feel fury warr that good to have 80% avarange on mythic such as i did with Enh Shammy.
So if anyone will don’t give me right answer, i will try much more to get the answer, if I succeed i will post this in a forum.

Hi Damikk, I took a look at one of your logs, you seem to have the basics down, but here are a couple of tips:

#1 - Never look for advice on the forums, as you can see, someone mentioning stat breakpoints in this day and age is a bad sign. Keep simming yourself! You’re doing that right. If you want a good resource to ask questions about the spec, try the Warrior Discord ‘Skyhold’.

#2 - You’re not using benthics. These are a huge boost to your damage in the raid, get them socketed. I do not know the specific list as I’m not raiding this tier. Ask the discord! :slight_smile:

#3 What I can tell you from your logs: You’re not always syncing Siegebreaker and Recklessness, delay Recklessness for Siegebreaker so you can use them together. Recklessness -> Siegebreaker in that order.

Good luck!

Ty for your post.
As i said before, i’m using benthic with socked slot, boots, gloves, wrists (no bis but ok) and for orgozoa, zaqul belt, i’m just most time stick with m+ gear.
About siegebreaker, that’s can be right, but, i’m don’t sure about delay recklesness for siegebreaker.if we use concandce life force as major, from my knowledge we need to stick both cds in one time, concandce have 3min cd reck have 1.5min cd.
I would be behind to delay siege for reck.

And Siegebreaker have 30 seconds cooldown. Theoretically it should all line up everytime. But everytime you dont hit Siegebreaker as it comes off cooldown it gets delayed by a gcd or 2. This will eventually add up, and in the case of one of your Sivara logs, push the Siegebreaker window out of your Recklessness window by 10 seconds.

In the case of using together with Guardian: The guardian lasts for 30 seconds. You can safely pop that immediately off cooldown along with the rest of raid if that’s where you’re using Bloodlust, and delay Recklessness for 10 seconds so it lines up with Siegebreaker. Recklessness will then be used together with Siegebreaker and they will both be within the bloodlust/guardian window.

This can be usefull, i don’t never think to line up siege with reck, until this time i will Keep this in mind.

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yeah in some loggs you didnt use enough your CDs … where can fit 4-5 … you use like 3 … and you have to much downtime… use a WW when nothing to do^^

Hmm, what cds you talking about ? ;), Definitely no recklesness, its hard to miss,and siege/dr on enc we use like 10+ times.
I’m use ww as a filer, that information can give us wowanalizer