SnD balance

With 8.2 looming, it would be nice if SnD gets a buff. Doesn’t even need to be a top tier talent, but currently it is better to not take any talent at all then to to take SnD. Some of us really would really like to pick it but currently it feels like you are punishing yourself and your group if you do that.

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It would be nice for it to be viable however the issue isnt with SND. its the issue that RTB gives out right better buffs, even just one buff often than not trumps SND. The only buffs which are weak alone without cds or anything is true bearing and the energy regen one.

I don’t think they want it to be viable because RTB is more interesting. Blizzard does this a lot with the talents.

SnD in their minds is a fine option for people who dislike RNG

SnD looks like their option for the casual player who isn’t invested into the game, likes to look like a pirate and kill WQ mobs, but needs his class to be easy to play and to understand at mediocre level. This talent is basically a simplification of the class for lower players. It is sad that it has an impact on the normal/good players so negative that not picking any talent on the row is a dps gain compared to picking SnD at it makes us feel like we just have no choice.

I have an idea what do you guys think? Maybe remove SnD and change it to a talent which makes RtB a passive, and make it cycle any random 2 buffs for you every 10 seconds or so. This way you’d still have to consider what buffs you got but would make it simpler to manage.

Simplicity will always be Snd > RTB due to it just being attk speed which is basically buried treasure and nothing else. Outlaw outside of M+ isn’t a very competitive build for the most part unless its a aoe focused raid like BOD where theres always atleast 1-2 other targets for the rogue to cleave all pull. Changing it now will only make matters worse.

Something has to be done about that talent though, as people said it’s better to pick nothing than pick SnD. I don’t think any other class has such a talent.

Who knows maybe with the essences and the amount of stats we’ll get and if there is a trait change nerfing Deadshot or anything we could see a build focused on autoattack damage + snake eyes only, stack haste and forget crit. It would require mad uptime though, and just now doesn’t sound excessively fun.

Nothing needs to be done. the entire class has not changed since legion and has only been gutted more with every new expansion, changing the class as a whole would be the ideal simpler fix than trying to address the one talent.

Roll the bones should just be nuked out of the game.

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