So are we gonna change glad to 2.2 or 2k this season :)?

[Spiritz-amanthul]

@Bewarê-frostmane

For one, that isn’t true. Blizzard has followed the whale fishing business model

and how do you know hardcore players are the whales?
especially now those hardcore players swim in gold and buy nothing with money.

while people with jobs and good money but no times tend to skip things with money (if available)
there are of course also the opposite.

but i dont think hardcore players are their best income, especially since there are so many more casuals.

but we cannot really determine that i guess

wow also dont really ahve much on the shop to whale for anyways. it aint lost ark

[Bewarê-frostmane]

@Spiritz-amanthul

and how do you know hardcore players are the whales?
especially now those hardcore players swim in gold and buy nothing with money.

Do you even understand how the token system works, and what motivates further purchases? Also, not all hardcore players does boosts.

But I wasn’t talking only about tokens, you know?

@Bewarê-frostmane

It’s not a secret that the vast majority of players in the world are casual gamers. That’s also true for WoW’s player base. However, they’re also the most fickle. As in that they can give up the game at the drop of a hat, and just swap to something else.
The core gamers in the world are a very, very, tiny minority. Yet they’re also the ones who are the most loyal to the games they play, and they spend a lot more time in the game(s) they’re loyal to compared to the casual players.

@Bewarê-frostmane

Read the full post for the specifics, I can see you’re not the type to read everything properly and instead just skims through it.

To dumb it down a bit, core gamers are the ones who are more likely to pay for game time every month, while casuals are much more likely to only pay for game time to test the new thing once and then quit 'til next patch, and rinse and repeat, thus causing that infamous pattern of more players at new content patches. And that’s if they haven’t quit the game already, some only tries the start of a new expansion once and then quits a week or two later, which in turn reduces the likelihood of testing the next expansion, and so on. In other words, reduced engagement leads to less engagement, which in turn leads to quitting the game eventually.

That’s why the gameplay itself absolutely can’t only be designed for casuals. Or else the feedback loop of reduced engagement causing less engagement in social circles would pretty quickly kill the game entirely. And that’s why the business model explained above in a previous post is the ideal to aim for.

To dumb it all down into one single line:
It’s the absolute best to design it to inspire dreams for casuals while hooking the core gamers.

[Ryymage-outland]

@Dalapie-twisting-nether

if top 50 in EU is 2.1 and top 10+ is around 2.2 then why are we not having glad at 2k rating ? i mean the issue right now is that the season is heavly inflated and no1 wants to play it, if this persists rank1 titles will be earned without reaching 2.4 even :P?

season ends in 2 months

Whats problem with glad been hard to get?

There is 2 months left r1 will be around 2600 glad will be just like it used to be in the past if it carries on like this which is a good thing.

[anon86190437]

They will do an emergency MMR injection to fix it, its easier than admitting the game has failed and is dead.

[Tertte-earthen-ring]

@Bewarê-frostmane

So mythic raiding and rated PvP is typically counted as for the core gamers, due to its difficulty and effort required to “clear it”. While the world content, LFR and unrated PvP is typically what counts as for the casual-oriented

I completely disagree, Playing for 3 days it’s very easy to get into the hall of fame (alliance) This is equivalent to r1 on arena, or get an achievement on the cutting edge, because bosses during the season are nerfed several times in epochal mode, at the end of the season there are just bags of loot that do not make problems with them to deal with, including when the Jailer removed the opportunity to throw away the raiders in epoch-making mode. And nothing changes in the arena during the season, as the MMR has not been added and is not being added.

I think blizzard is obliged to increase the growth of MMR for win streaks, why I now have a lower rating with 51% winrate than I had at the beginning of the game session in the arena today.

[Bewarê-frostmane]

@Tertte-earthen-ring

I completely disagree, playing for 3 days it’s very easy to get into the hall of fame (alliance) This is equivalent to r1 on arena

What are you even talking about? It has nothing to do with what I said, so why would you even quote me?

[Miauwu-stormscale]

meanwhile on NA theres 2.6+ players lol… thing is community manager posted that they messed up EU mmr this season and idk how they will fix it

[Bualock-tarren-mill]

@Solanj-archimonde

It’s almost as if locking gladiator behind a fixed rating is stupid and they should have sticked with the % system.

why do you even care? you haven’t gotten glad in bfa & shadowlands why you even bother about % system like you were getting it every season when it was % based

this is like people at 1.5 complain about meta when meta doesnt really affect till really high rating lol

[Solanj-archimonde]

@Bualock-tarren-mill

why do you even care? you haven’t gotten glad in bfa & shadowlands why you even bother about % system like you were getting it every season when it was % based

Because you don’t need to be directly concerned by a problem to find an obvious solution to it, you dimwit.

[Bualock-tarren-mill]

@Solanj-archimonde

you dimwit.

social contract breached

[Pestered-kazzak]

Im gearing up after a break again, can already tell getting 1400 is somewhat of a struggle hahaha. Nice deflated arena’s. Let DF be here soon.