Must have been before my time.
In my experience, Randoms were always a mixed bag (premades, noobs, alts, PvE heroes).
I can’t be mad at a noob for having low dps, it’s unreasonable to expect him to be en-par with well geared experienced players.
But I do get disappointed with players who abandon their team when they probably need them the most.
(…& flame them on their way out).
Better of use of my time. I don’t need to tryhard for other people that don’t provide anything to victory. It’s disrespectful towards me, when they join as 200k hp healers and expect others to carry them to win.
Sure. But it is still 99% the case, that those with enormous output (heal/dmg) are the better players who also focus on objectives when it is important (you can zerg in the center, but have an eye on the enemy FC and intercept him when the time is right).
Because gearing is so easy as never before. And with the current meta (snowball-effect in teamfihgts) it is so obvious that someone with 200k hp will get one-shotted. There are multiple ways to quickly get base gear for BGs (AH, WPvP Quests).
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Btw, by explaining this I am condoning toxic behaviour (starting to insult people). But, it should not wonder anyone when good players leave and do something else with their game-time, for which they pay.
It was before your time indeed. But Im seeing that 10.2 might actually be great time for some good old 1vsX fights if opponents are undergeared. DF starts to slowly move WoW back to Wrath, MoP Cata times and its not a bad thing at all.
No-one’s disrespecting you by joining a Random BG. I don’t think there’s a need to take take it personally.
idk, if someone keeps ditching bases to get his dps up, I’d say the better player would be the one who stayed behind to defend it (& sacrificed his DPS output for the teams benefit). If someone has a pocket healer (or 2) while his teammates are melting, sure he may have enormous output in comparison, but does that make him the better player?
…or playing BG’s. Realistically, they should be atleast Honor geared in a week. But they’d still probably spend that week playing ‘undergeared’, as will the next noob & the next.
The way I read it, the community wanted progression in gear, so perhaps we should give them the chance to gear-up & learn their spec without flaming them.
’Sorry losers, I’m too much of a winner to play with trash’
I mean sure, they pay a sub & can play (think) how they like. I still don’t understand the quitting mentality though.
Does it even get recorded as a loss? (do people quit so it looks like they have 99-100% wins!?)
Good stuff 
For some that is a reason. It does not get recorded as loss when you leave before finish.
If it was RBG, good players would always do what is most efficient, which in some cases is to stay behind and defend. In random BGs, players are looking for fun and fights, defending is boring, therefore almost everyone ist just running around looking for zergs^^ And still, I would say that those good players whipping out enemies in base after base ARE the main reasons why the lesser geared/skilled players can even taste victory (not trying to be elitist or toxic here, it is just the truth).
Not disrespectful to me in particular, it is disrespectul to all other X players in your team in that BG. Premise being, that you already know that your team will be wiped out in seconds after you, the only healer, are getting oneshotted with your questing gear, ignoring all other options in the game to gear up a bit, or hell, just queue as DPS. in 90% of the BGs your team will just lose because of your decision to queue like that. That is disrespectful.
I admit, the whole situation should not be like that, players should be able to gear/learn PvP somewhere. But at the end, how players act and react is the result of this game being designed like it is 
that includes “good players” getting frustrated over other players not bringing enough output.
Just had a game going on like this:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/940658002241945610/1112661161842839602/image.png
My team did not a single kill, the enemies have already 40% of the victory-points. How would I “alone” carry this? Why would I tryhard to do that anyway? Seeing those stats I don’t have the feeling that my team even deserves to win. Should I still stay in that BG which wont be fun or just leave and queue on another char?
I think you’ve a pretty good idea what I’ll say (& there’s no point asking you what you did end up doing).
Stay.
Take the loss like everyone else.
We’ve all had blow-outs & wipes & been decimated by better teams. It’s not always someones fault, some teams are just better & sometimes it’s just unfortunate.
…& sometimes people just need a scapegoat: ’this is YOUR fault! -we’d have won if you had the common decency to start playing last week, so you’d be wearing Honor gear!’
I had a Seething Shore brawl yesterday.
Not my fav BG & we started with 4ppl. I suggested disrupting the nodes as long as possible until we had a full team. We lost 1200-1500, but I was happy with that, all things considered. I could have ate a deserter, but I’d have missed out on an enjoyable game.
Personally, I derive my pleasure from playing (that’s why I won’t afk/quit) I just want to PvP - winning is a bonus.
Unfortunately, people like you and me are in the vast minority. We play BGs for fun (PvP is virtually all I do in the game) and winning isn’t the be-all and end-all. I’m not saying I don’t like to win - of course everyone does - but what’s more important is the experience I have. Losing a close game doesn’t get me down. Sadly the game is littered with quitters, which ruins the experience for the rest of the team that chose to stick around.
Oh, I am with you there guys. I don’t get mad about losing a close match, when it was challenging and a fun experience overall. But we all know, there are those BGs where you feel literally 1 vs 10 (exactly my screenshot above), there is NO fun in that. Those games are very common nowadays because the “snowballing” is crazy atm.
I don’t know why a lot of people take random bgs so serious. It’s a free for all game mode. Anyone can join, be it a new player in questing greens, or a fully decked out gladiator. Some people are there to win, some don’t care, and some simply have no idea what they are doing. We all know that before signing up.
If you want to win, and play with like-minded players, play rated pvp. In my opinion taking rated bgs too serious can only lead to frustration.
i was under the impressions that you were part of a group of people that solely enjoy easy wins with fully grouped teams and graveyard camps.
bruh can u like… change your hair or smth, everytime i see you with t10.5 and that hair, and circle of flame i instantly think sits me and im like “i don’t remember commenting this” lol
Well, seems like your impression was not quite right 
I play solo pretty often and there are challenging games where I can carry, that is fun. But I prefer to play with friends, guild- and community members when possible. Not only because the social reasons, but also to avoid the frustrating situations, as explained above.
guess my impression was wrong, then again it was based on you boasting of camping me in a game where we had half team undergeared and you were in premade
yeah, at the same time, I guess my dmg spoke for itself 
focusing you makes just these forum discussions funnier <3
just saying, not rly much of a match there, when those bgs happen i know that even if i outplay you, fake cast etc, there is 2 more watching me, and 2 more wathcing your back, so its hardly playable.
I hightly doub you can outplay anyone. And I tell you without bitterness. 
I faced this mage in Eots without anyone intervening and the only thing he was able to do is trying to push me off the edge of the map (It didn’t work for him because I came back with the paraglider).
And he was saying in his Streams “that only Dexzx was capable of beating him”
The mage who complains about premades but is later seen playing premades. “Coincidences” I imagine.
That is what we do playing in premade. Result: a bunch of creepy whiners attacking us on the forum. 
In all honesty I thought that was you 
ye i changed mog, but thats like, my signature mog t10.5 defiler tabard and vurtne’s hair xD haha
I dont mind people playing in a premade of up to 5 people, as intended. Anything above that should be a bannable offense, in my opinion.