So Horde Bias rising again!

The scale tipped further - not with Racials per say, but with Vulpera vs Diaper Babies.
… It’s horrible to be on Ally atm - most friends have gone Horde.

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As far as I know you are an LFR raider Jesi, every racial is great for you in this case :crazy_face:

You would yea but ask your raider and m+ population and see if they agree with you, tell them “Dwarf racials are much better guys lets trade it with Troll racial” probably majority of them will get banned because of insulting you heavily aftermath :stuck_out_tongue:

If it was, raider guilds would be on Alliance side, simple as that.

It is not bad in PvP but not a game changer.

I am still angry at blizzard for this. I will be waiting for their apology, they must give Horde Troggs and give us Satyr or something and then we will see which faction is whiner and full of kids. :smiley:

He is quite right. Besides berserking which was nerfed to the ground trolls don’t have anything else that is remotely fun or useful.
Beast slaying was made useless.
Throwing weapon was removed.

And I was asking for some time for regeneration to be redesigned. Ideally it should work as Kul’Tiran brush it off so imagine my discontent that hoomies got it. I would like for Darkspears to have at least some fun utility racial.

I only keep my trolls out of nostalgia, not because of racial.

List of Horde Special Treatment:

  1. The Barrens - There’s no time to finish it, which leads to the most unfinished questing zone in the history of WoW.

Result: Many PVP guilds were formed while walking the Gold Road because there was nothing else to do. Horde pwns PVP forevermore because there was no decent PVE.

  1. Horde Leaders - One quit, two died and one was an evil woman because of ‘reasons’…

Result: The Horde is currently Alliance 2.0 because it has no leaders (stop hitting yourself, Horde).

  1. All Cinematics - Follow Alliance to Alliance capital to hear Alliance side of story, and then talk to AllianceBeard for a necklace, and do Alliance quests for Alliance reasons because Alliance 2.0.

Result: What is Horde?

Oh yeah, we’re spoiled…

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Most of Method plays trolls just because of the racial ? One of the best, if not the best raiding guild in the world ?

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Then maybe nerf them or buff the humans’s racials.

There is no such a thing as World First eace by the way, it is “Which Horde will be First Race”. It is a competition among Horde guilds and some people still come here and say “It is only 30 dps 40 dps, muh Horde’s racials are not so good”.

Alliance needs a cool new race and some rework on racials, Worgen is my first candidate for a rework, speed boost is utterly useless for instance except for old expansion raid tmog runs.

Some racial will always be mathematical better then the rest on horde for some specs but you can not prove the troll racial is so much better then the rest.
Having method use it as your proof tells me you are purposely ignoring the mathematical evidence.
For balance druid the highest horde dps race is troll the highest alliance dps race is night elf at 79 dps lower then the highest horde racial.
For feral druid the highest alliance dps is night elf and for horde it is tauren at 457 dps lower then night elf.

Again come at me with facts not feelings and I will believe you but do not be stupid the troll racial is far from being this op racial.

You can literally fact check me yourself as the numbers are easy to come by.
Are there situations where the horde racial are better sure but there are many of the alliance racials that are better then the horde racials.
This blaming racials how they are now for faction imbalance is just foolish.

You can blame other things but no one of you have shown any reason for me to believe you as it is easier to blame the horde racial.
Heck you have shown that I should not trust what you say as it is emotional not factually driven.

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At this point you are either so blinded by emotion that any rational thinking is not possible or you are activly a troll.

You ignore facts because your emotion are more important.

Extra bag space is useful for those of us that like to run old raids, some of which drop a frick ton of stuff, and having to leave the raid near the end then run all the way back because you ran out of space is a pain in the butt.

However I don’t, for one moment, think that having 8 extra slots is any kind of bias, and I created four Vulpera’s the moment I completed the quest.

Then why does the Alliance cannot compete with the Horde-world 1st races?

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Because they suck… Alliance have no badass professional team where Horde is playing 24/7 to hit world first. Pay them to switch faction and they still will be first despite being theoretically handicapped.

Quite flamboyant but wrong. For world 1sts it doesn’t matter if they are blue or red but where the better utilities and racials lie for min/maxing. That’s we have seen an increase in better “Alliance AR racials” but due everyone’s surprise, it had no impact due the feedback loop.

Most of the playerbase are just a herd, following them, which in the end had catastrophic consequences for the Alliance in a game which wants to have a permanent faction war.

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Are you… trolling, or are you actually that stupid ? if the BEST guild in the WORLD pretty much only plays TROLL. The evidence is right there.

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Do we know this for sure? I mean, where is this documented? Have we access to the player profiles through 3rd party sites?

Because there are less alliance players trying.
The lower population at max level willing to go for it also does not help.

This is not a thing that randomly suddenly showed up it has taken many years and expansions to happen.

And there are alliance competing, in EP the 2 top alliance guild was at 18th place and 20th place in EP.
You might not care about them though as they are chinese and oceanic guilds.

Well, then this is a failure, no matter how we look at it, I guess.

It’s totally not like Method doesn’t have it’s own site that shows what their raiders play and it’s totally not a majority troll because haste is literally good for everyone.

I see. I don’t care for the whole pro scene (have it done with HotS and in the end, it was just a waste of time). I’ll check the team later out just for having a better grasp on the situation with other about this topic, thanks.

You asked about the world first race and that is an answer.

That is evidence for what?
That they play the top theoretical dps race for there faction for there class and spec is kinda a duhhhhhhhhhh
They are min-maxing everything if they do not need the utility racials ofcourse they will.
This does not prove anything as for them even that 30dps matters for everyone that is not what top 5 top 10 top 20 guilds in the world that 30 dps PLAYER MISTAKE will matter far far far more then any racial.
(Using 30 here as that is what it is for balance druid right now but this number changes with spec)

And again for 50% of the dps specs in the game Alliance racials do more dps then horde ones. But that you ignore as that would not fit your narrative of troll racial being op.
If blizzard nerfed troll racial another racial would be top dog on horde GUESS what method players would be THAT RACE.

You can look this up yourself on bloodmallet.

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