So Horde Bias rising again!

No already have a blood elf paladin.

Trolls - Amani Trolls, let’s have it right
Orcs - corrupted by the Legion and attacked Quel’Thalas once. Yes, they had losses, but equally, they lost many more to the Scourge, led by a Human Death Knight.

Arthas was no longer Alliance just like saurfang the young was no longer horde when he was turned into a dk they both were scourge they faction transfered.

for now. But it will become expensive again. You remind me that I should upgrade some characters with them while the bubble lasts.

Horde bias have always been on the rise, what you speak is nothing new.

[Retributor]

120 Human Paladin

I just realized that according to their data, there are more blood elves than there are alliance.

So we do a little maths lesson. That site, which is not correct, and I will come onto that in a moment, states that 24% of people play Blood Elves, and 30 % of people play Alliance. Now neither of those figures are correct, however that doesn’t mean more people play Blood Elves than Alliance. By definition…I mean check out the numbers again. 24 and 30.
-If- there were one hundred players, and 30 play Alliance, and 24 play Blood Elf, then how do you work out that more people play Blood Elf, than Horde?
Now, that site is inaccurate.

Check out the numbers involved. Those are not Blizzard statistics, those are statistics based on only people in the US servers who have downloaded a particular Add On, that provides census information to that company who have nothing to do with Blizzard. It -only- sends the information if you download that Add on, and then furthermore authorise them to send the information.

That is about as valid a demographic as “I asked three people and two of them play Horde, there fore 66.6% of all WoW players play Horde! BIAS!”

Okay, so I know Americans can get hysterical, and will believe any old tat based on made up statistics on the internet, but really Retributor, you should fact check these things first, before looking a bit foolish…

Know what I was also able to find, just by typing in Argent Dawn EU Population numbers?

Oh yes, go to Wowrealmpopulation-dot-com, look up Realm statistics, and select Argent Dawn
Check those numbers out, and explain to me that these websites are accurate in any way? I mean It should surely show 1 Horde player, I was online, I saw several hundred other players online, and that was just in one zone…

Still believe everything these sites tell you?

Proof that Wow Devs Play Horde

Nightborne: Everyone wanted, we ALL had established relationships with. Shoe-horned in an argument with Tyrande so they could be given to Horde. Zandalari trolls: Long-cemented in the lore, long-awaited, excellent aesthetic. Given to Horde. …

But that post contains no proof whatsoever?

I mean there -literally- is no proof, it is just one person, one childish person may I say, given that we see ‘Diaper Gnomes’ cited as part of their ‘Proof’. Even more level headed Alliance posters are going “Err, that’s just your opinion, not proof” if you read down.

Misleading title, there is no proof there.

Where’s is the worldwide alliance poll?

Don’t know, there wasn’t a World-wide Horde Poll. I mean you just said it yourself for goodness sake!

*Imagine that mental gymnastic. *
Orcs and mostly trolls slaughtered elves for eons.
-Retributor

It isn’t hard, we see it every time you post.

Orcs did not slaughter elves for Eons. They haven’t been on Azeroth that long and only invaded Quel’thalas once.

Horde Trolls at the time had never slaughtered Elves, or had not even met them, because the Darkspear were not the Trolls who did, that was the Amani, who lets be fair, had good reason.

So neither of your statements with reference to the horde, are correct.

*If this horde bias contenues i won’t have a choice but to either faction change or unsub and i probelly will unsub as i’ve heard warhammer’s way better plus the orcs there can 1shot the orcs on wow

How on earth is that supposed to make sense, one race from one setting can one shot a member of the same race (Though actually totally different, Warhammer’s Orcs are more like Botani, they are living fungi) in a different setting, where the two will never meet. What are you on about?

So what we have is two sets of fibs wrapped up with serious sounding titles, neither of which are true.

And some people wonder why we can never take these ‘Bias’ threads seriously? At least look up the post you quote, rather than just click the title!

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Don’t get me wrong, we have many crazy theories here in the topic - but also some actual evidence which suggesting this. Newest discussion I have read is about Ion’s speech pattern in talking about WoW at BlizzCon 2019 and how the Alliance is never addressed in the continuing story - but I’ll have to check this out for myself at a later point.

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Don’t you think the coolest race ever Mechagnome is a proof of Alliance hate among Blizzard staff, I think Mechagnome alone is enough to prove that there is a biased attitude among them.

If people have been migrating to Horde from Alliance since especially Legion’s launch then there is definitely an external factor encouraging this behaviour, and in my opinion that external factor is Blizzard staff.

It has been almost 4 years, this snowball effect started with removal of Human Racial (excluding MoP Horde racial advantages), by taking away Alliance’s PvP advantage Blizzard made Horde a place for both PvP and PvE players, then continued by giving less appealing allied races to Alliance. Consequently there are only a few high end PvP and PvE players left on Alliance side.

I told you, my Alliance guild on Silvermoon swapped to Twisting Nether Horde side. Silvermoon is a server among top 3 for Alliance players alongside the RolePlay servers I guess. My guild was not a world first competitor guild but they were able to progress in Mythic Ny’alotha raid soon after the launch which means we were above Heroic Level.

Mechagnome was the last nail to the coffin, I tried to stop it but no… shills came to that thread and said;

“One mans trash, anothers treasure. I am happy to get Mechagnomes.”.

Now I don’t see any Trashgnome around me, in Boralus, Stormwind, Dalaran… They are nowhere to be found. It turns out it was everyman’s trash and no one’s treasure.

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Umm. Nope. And -you- think Mechagnome alone is enough to -Prove- that there is a biased attitude among them?

Welcome to the world of Opinion. Quite a lot of people like them, sorry. So uh, no, Still just your opinion. No Proof.

Do you mean the constant see-saw effect? Or are you new to the game? You don’t remember the days of EMFH then I take it, when the exact opposite was the case, and yet, at the time, the outcry was almost deafening in its silence, as if…almost as if people only care when the odds are not in their favour…Bless 'em.

Who cares. Do not confuse a Streamer selling you your outrage with any actual effect upon the game.

And there we go! Thank you for conceding the discussion so soon, however, Tell me, if there was a global meltdown, I don’t just mean a front-lobal meltdown like some people have, but an actual global meltdown of technology, no internet and suchlike, where would you find your buzzwords to describe anyone that does not agree with you? I mean I have been alive a while, I know a few, but if the internet had not given you ‘Shill’ to make you sound important, and somehow clued in, what word would you be using? I am sure many of those people labelled as Shills just because they don’t agree with you would be rather happy with the monetary rewards they can then expect to be earning, because you say so. It must feel good, to know your opinion is worth enough to decree that anyone who disagrees with you gets paid by a company, just to disagree with you. A certain conceit many have fallen afoul of.

Your entire post reeks, positively reeks, like a harlots untended knickers of “I don’t like MechaGnomes, anyone who does works for Blizzard and is a shill getting paid money to say that!”

Have a stop, wobble your head a minute, then reboot your head, and look at that again.

You can surely see how unreasonable you appear?

Well, I mean, you won’t will you? I mean they would show up as Mechagnome.

I’m casting heavy doubt on this, unless your server is not linked to any other server in the EU, then I am calling Shenanigans, as in, a wilful and playful mistruth.

There are plenty of them around. You just don’t like it, because it makes your doomsaying wrong.

Oh, None of your post constitutes Proof, in any way shape or form, and you fairly much are starting to appear to do so deliberately, but in case it is a genuine misunderstanding, let me furnish you with the definition of Proof, that any future posts be better informed…

"Evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement: "

We Eagerly await this, until then, this is just another Alliance Whine Thread ™

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Since we’re talking about mechagnomes of all my game play i’ve maxxium seen one of two maybe even 3 level 120 mechagnomes and i do quite a few m+ and other content with other players so barelly anyone like the gnomes so why coulen’t we get a race we wanted instead like High elves they have what it takes to be a new race to us And if they won’t soon be added to the Alliance then more and more will either go horde or unsub to play other mmorpgs.

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I only know that thay race changed to Troll for BoD Jaina raid encounter and not because of Berserking but because of Voodoo shuffle. Which is a racial that majority of players forgot about.

Maybe you should stop wanting crap from the Horde. Crap you already got, by the way.

Maybe you should just stop being so full of hate you always gets the races you wants yet we haven’t gotton a single race we wanted in bfa you have frecking dinosaurs so case closed horde bias is a thing yet you’re just to edgy to admit it.

Let’s have a look at all Alliance AR:

Void Elves weren’t asked for but they do their job. What the race needs a worgen-like transformation into a Helf.
LF Draenei weren’t really requested but they have a bigger lore behind them. They are okay but need some fine-tuning to their looks.
Dark Iron Dwarves were highly requested for years and they delivered
Kul Tirans were not requested but they added them anyway. Good race, partly new rig (for Ogres in the future) and based on the Pandaren model.
Mechagnomes were not asked for but we got them. Low-effort race.

Racials

Velves are good for almost every class
LFD good against Demons, AoE-spell
DID are nearly insane thanks to Fireblood. On top of that a free 1-hour teleport to almost every known location in the game
Mechagnomes extremely good for PVP and PVE. On top of that Self-Heal, Worktool for every profession and insane main stat bonus.

However, let’s have a look at the Horde:

HMT. Not requested but lore-wise most people are attached to them. Somewhat good racials
NBs were requested and people are attached to them. Bad racials overall. Infamous “bad” model.
Mag’har Orcs have been requested for a long time. Okay racials.
ZT have been requested a long time. Good racials and model.
Vulpera have been requested since they have been known. Former OP-Racial (+10% damage to demi-human) has been removed for bags-upgrade. Their tent functions as a teleport which is actually very nice but nothing compared to the DID.

Overall:
Horde got almost everything they wanted.
Alliance not so much due a very bad time frame release. Sethraks or another fantasy race would have made more sense. At top of that, the Alliance suffers from the human-syndrome. They need more diversity in their ranks.

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It’s funny cause you think I wanted furry foxes.

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Ankorans would be imo nicer, Sethrak didn’t make sense for Alliance as well. And I’d love to play as fishguy.

It seems a lot of players on ad likes them as so many comes to goldshire

Well said. I’m happy with Void Elf race personally, I would like to have a seperate wing transmog option though, wings should be seperated from chest imo.

Dark Iron is the only race that I don’t complain about, at least they have some real distinctive features but still they are dwarf after all, their audience is limited and this race roughly has no female gender.

The word “new” doesn’t always equate to good or cool. New things can turn out to be a fiasco, Kul’Tiran human can still be used for a good cause by adding skinny option to them but first Blizz gonna have to create a skinny Kul’tiran female model for that, we have only male.

Greatest fiasco of all times, no need to discuss alot of things related to them. Just ignore them…

The numbers between faction player counts will differ alot more within the next expansion, it will come to 30% Alliance / 70% Horde considering the route Blizzard has been taking. People-Guilds already started to move Horde for the next expansion in order to make preparations and recruit new members on Horde side. Only solution is giving Alliance the upperhand via racial advantages, these advantages won’t be enough if they are like 0.3% etc, it must be 3.5-4% at least. Or else Alliance side will consist of only roleplayers soon enough.

Nothing serious but it’s still fun to see how the community pokes at the Alliance and/or the developers:

https://old.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/fxiyrp/spoiler_shadowlands_allied_races_racial_mounts/
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Dayum, minecraft Horse incoming! :smile_cat:

It might seem like a joke but you know it will be real soon enough :stuck_out_tongue: