So, How is/was TBC?

i only have good thigns to say about TBC since it is when i started palying (early TBC, a month after launnch) and it was awsome

This is my experience and how i played with friends/guild m8s. Kicking someone out and going to capital to recruit new player was no problem to us. Ofc leaders checked gear what players had. At that time i would not take someone to sunwell with t4 gear.

Personally, I loved TBC at the time, but I don’t think I would have the patience for it today because of the long rep grinds and attunement chains.

I’m sure Classic TBC will be a lot cleaner at launch than the original in terms of abilities and stats, given that a lot of things were tweaked over the course of the expansion and the Sunwell patch brought a lot of changes. I don’t see Enh shaman starting out as a Str. spec, for example, or paladins having the same mess of every imaginable stat on their gear. Classes who got CC later on, like shaman, might get it from the beginning to ensure they don’t get excluded from dungeons or forced into healing.

No matter what, it will not be the same expansion we remember because the playerbase has learned an enormous lot over the past 13 years. While min-maxing was absolutely a thing back then, and there was a lot of theorycrafting being done, it will be taken to an extreme.

We remember a lot of things as hard because a lot of people didn’t know what a focus macro was, didn’t stack the proper amount of Hit (oopsie, sheep broke and 1-shotted them), clicked all their spells, and thought strafing out of a pool was stressful. That’s not going to happen anymore, and while gear will probably still be pretty awful, class and game knowledge, along with experience of much harder mechanics, will likely trivialize some content.

I was playing on the US servers back then, with 200+ latency (sometimes up to 400), and I was able to do both heroics and raids just fine. As a mage, I was often the main CC-er, I tanked the Scarecrow in Kara, Krosh in Gruul, and through T5, I was usually top 3 DPS. I had some things keybound, but not all. Obviously, I was never in a top guild, but we were able to clear that content. That should give you an idea of how forgiving those “hard” encounters were.

Also, a lot of people know how to make gold these days and I have no doubt TSM and similar addons will be available for the new TBC. I don’t think there will be many who will hit 70 without enough gold to buy their epic mount immediately, which means you won’t experience the pleasure of doing Ogri’la bombing dailies on a slow flyer :stuck_out_tongue: But I hope Ogri’lazy will get a compatible version!

While this version of TBC will be played much more efficiently, I think a lot of the exploration and wonder will be gone. There won’t be much experimentation because everyone knows what worked and when. There will be a lot of Shadow priests in T4, every mage will be Fire in T4, Arcane-Frost in T5, and playing a warlock in Sunwell, every Hyjal tank will be a paladin, every healer in Sunwell will be a Resto shaman, and so on. Arena will be 2v2, war/rdruid. People who start out without a pre-formed guild will likely never get to see more than Kara (and that’s if they manage to get their attunement done).

Initially, I was excited about it, but I realized that it would be very different the second time around. Part of what made it fun for me was figuring out some tricks few people knew at the time, which meant I was making decent gold and had certain spots all to myself much of the time. The other part was actually meeting people, exploring together, discovering things for the first time, etc. That, unfortunately, can’t be replicated.

No way to be spell hit capped and have enough crit for fire to work until late t5 early MH/BT even if you dropped pieces to wear 3 set spellfire gear and had a dreani SP in your group .

Many attunements and grinds but I’m still going to go back and try it when we get TBC Classic or whatever they are going to call it.

I never tried a paladin in TBC, Punyelf was born in Wrath. So it’s going to be fun to try. I imagine it will be very much like when I went and tried Classic. A great bit of nostalgia which will soon wear off.

I still think it’s great that Blizz are doing these Old Skool versions of the game for players to enjoy. I have friends who are still playing Classic but the bulk have stopped now.

In TBC retribution was still not a viable specc for raiding I’m afraid. It was either tank healer and buff machine or off-tanking. Prot was the best AoE tank so they always needed 1 in raids.

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I doubt I’ll do much raiding, I didn’t stick around in Classic long enough to raid either.

Retail will always be my main focus.

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I think you will enjoy TBC more than Classic, even if you won’t raid. The game was way more polished at that stage.

I love TBC but Classic is nope for me.

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Been there, done that. :slight_smile: All I can say about WoW vanilla or TBC or whatever old expansions.

Apparently not a classic player and I am happy that early expansions sit in the mental loft for good old memories when I was young and played with friends back then.


‘it was the best of times, it was the worst of times’
Charles Dickens

Eversong woods
*sigh :slight_smile:
not having a clue how anything worked
:s

I was really disappointed with Classic tbh. It was amazing seeing all the old zones again. The community was also pretty awful, especially when I went back towards the end of BfA.

My first time in WoW was TBC but there is no way I’m doing a Warlock again. I was and still am the worlds WORST warlock :smile: I think it’s going to be big nostalgia though no matter what class I pick.

I just want something to potter about in when I’m done with Retail for the day.

The community is always a hit or miss thing just like retail. Classic has a bunch of “pros” that look down on everyone, especially retail players but there’s also amazing people, my friend list filled up quickly in just a few days. A lot faster than retail I must say.

There’s a lot more viable classes in TBC than Vanilla so there’s plenty of class choices I must say. Warlock is going to be overplayed anyway because it carries raids with their OP shadowbolt spams.

Dungeons/professions/PvP and even Karazhan are all fairly easy to access for casual plays. World PvP is still so fun in Outland and there’s even a few collectibles to be farmed.

But TBC is still pretty much raid/PvP or get stuck.

The community was awful in TBC when I started. I played solo more or less for years.

We will see how it goes this time. I hope it will be better from that pov.

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Honestly I just don’t care anymore. I have friends I play with, so if some random wants to be toxic I just ignore them.

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Hello there ! You had some terrible luck if you had that experience and I am really sorry, I for one remember having my whole guild help me hit 70 in Netherstorm and an incredible experience and community/people I woud love to have now.

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I played on a tiny rppvp server most of tbc so it was an everyone knew everyone kind of situation.
Had a couple of sour apples but most were a good bunch.
And as mentioned, roflstomping the sour ones in wpvp is good fun.

It really does vary from person to person. It’s honestly a miracle I kept playing. :smile:

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Burning Crusade is at its core a more polished version of Classic. That’s pretty much everything there is to say. But, to make it a bit clearer:

Classes got a lot more balanced and several fundamentally broken specs finally got the attention needed (e.g. paladins and druids were now suddenly able to actually play tank especially in dungeons or at least as off-tanks in raids, and shadow priests were actually considered as DPS
and mana batteries if I remember correctly), several classes also received iconic abilities during this time (e.g. rogues finally got access to Shadowstep).

Outside of that a lot of new things got added during BC: Arenas for PvP-players, heroic dungeons where you also were able to get some tokens/currency to buy stuff which was great for catch-up (and also resulted in Karazhan-farm-runs), a lot of attunement questlines for several dungeons, raids got a lot more complicated and had new mechanics added to them, daylies became a real thing for the first time, and sockets also became a thing and much more.

As I said it’s a polished version of Classic, and it also laid down the groundwork for a lot of other mechanics and systems which are common nowadays.

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Yup played since vanilla