Ah it was changed in Before the Storm… yeah makes sence.
In part if I saw that I think I would assume it was the writers admitting they wrote themselves into a corner faction conflict wide and needing a deus ex machina the size of Azeroth in an effort to soft reset where they are.
Its an interesting idea, maybe if someone other then blizzard was writing. I would not have this immediate bias to assuming its a deus ex machina attempt.
Don’t forget how Illidan will come back at some point too. He is on ice like Bolvar was.
Oh it would definitely be a deus ex machina if they do something like that, but don’t be surprised if something like that happens. A return to some level of conflict is inevitable. It is too much in the game’s DNA.
I don’t think the looking for peace part is the issue.
It’s the writing that’s the problem.
WoW has never had good writing, but it basically went from ‘corny 90’s edgy sci fi writing’ to ‘80’s saturday morning cartoon writing with modern sensibilities’.
The topic and themes just could have been handled much, much better.
Possibly, yes. Though my outlook on how much of the games DNA is considered sacred is a bit more bleak, I can easily see them point at that one quest in Voidstorm and go see? the factions are still fighting (because NPC questgivers are telling them too)
She is neutral. End of debate.
Hes a clown who twists lore to fit his narrative. You cant reason with his kind
I miss BfA man. When Horde and Alliance both had their time to shine in spotlight (not necessarily in “being the lead”)
His job is to remove the sword.
Oh no I gave up on reason years ago. I argue with him to see how deep the well goes. Plus everyone knoes that Erevien knows jack about the lore and head cannons 90% of it instead of just checking.
It’s tempting to believe in that but at the same time… I can’t in good faith have any faith in Blizzard’s writing anymore.
But even Warcraft managed to handle those themes decently. Not great but Bonds of Blood and Honor that was written by Metzen tackled the subject of differences and similarities much better. Warcraft 3 tackled it much better. Hell early WoW tackled it better even with the accusation of ICC being Bland because Varian actually shown an empathy despite the differences. For a moment a hateful King of the Alliance saw not a hateful enemy but a father mourning his own son. Something he as a father could relate to.
But that aspect is missing now. We’re not shown any reasons why Characters do things they do and it’s jarring. Creates situations that feel empty and devoid of anything holding any worth. Because of that It felt off and wrong to, as a Horde member and Blood Elf, interact with Alleria as if we were friends simply because my character had nothing to do with freeing Xal’atath. Why should it feel right? The last time I as a player on the Horde Side saw Alleria was when she, banished from Silvermoon after almost corrupting the Sunwell swore to take the city back by force. Quite a strong impression don’t you think? One where she shows zero self reflection and understanding of the fact she almost doomed the Elves. Now the game forces me to act as if I had utmost faith in her judgement and self control.
She isn’t really. Get real.
I am being. She’s loyal to anduin and varian not the alliance as a faction. I know you’re a bit slow and like to deal in absolutes but come on try understanding the lore a little bit instead of throwing a tantrum every time the horde get “slighted”
It does not, we had a little questline in Argus with Magni who said that Argus one is much different from Azeroth, full of pain and suffer, but still existing even he was already released and being last boss fight in the raid already
I am presuming that when she is free she will fly off into the universe to do cosmic stuff, probably going with Illidan after he removes the sword (which I believe will happen given Metzen’s comments that ‘we will not be prepared’ for what happens with the sword).
I mean the story so far basically seems to turn Blood Elves into the most pathetic victims that the noble High Elves and Void Elves have to say.
I’m not saying it as a Horde. I’m saying it as a Blood Elf player. To have the story take place in their land, their home they defended and rebuilt when the likes of Varessa did nothing (yet reserved themselves the right to judge the Sin’dorei) and be reduced to mere victims to be saved? It’s beyond insulting.
This sounds too good of a rumour to be something the current writers may have come up with.
Unfortunately there is a very important financial reason why the current decision makers do not want conflict to exist. If faction conflict still existed, it means that they will have to create very lengthy mutually exclusive questlines for each faction. This means nearly double the work in order to maintain a somewhat equal number of quests available for each faction (and therefore character).
It’s one thing having 10-15 faction-specific quests per expansion, and another to have 300+. And while they had realized that all the way back from TBC (which is why WotLK is the first expansion with most quests shared between both Horde and Alliance), they still maintained creating exclusive questlines for each faction to keep fueling the conflict even in subtle ways. But from from Shadowlands onwards they went full throttle with unified questlines. Did DF and TWW have any faction-specific quests?
Unfortunately any conflict will only be limited in prominent characters smug-looking members of the opposite faction during cutscenes.
Only sith deal in absolute. And him isnt definitely one of them.
That’s an absolute on itself ![]()