So, I unlocked the Nightborne... And I am wondering about the available classes for them

So, let me say right from beginning, that I prefeer the Paladins as my “favourite” class.

Just a few minutes ago I finished my 3-day questing/grind for the Nightborne on Horde so I can finally play with a race I like on Horde… However, something wonders and worries me.

Why does the Alliance have 3 races with 2 additional allied races able to play Paladin, but Horde has only 3 overall?

To name all…

Alliance:

  • Humans
  • Draenei
  • Dwarfs
  • Lightforged Draenei
  • Darkiron Dwarfs

Horde:

  • Tauren
  • Zandalari Trolls
  • Bloodelfs

That’s 2 Races less…

Some would say Nightborne have “Lore-Reasons” to not be able to play Paladin as a Class, but explain me then why a Nightborne can be Priest (also a Light-wielding Class), which is by lore the “forerunner” of the Paladin Orders? They can also be Warriors… If I remember the Lore from both Books and Game right, Paladins are basically Hybrids of Warriors and Priests.

If they are able to be Priests and Warriors, why can’t they also be Paladins? Also, why has the Horde this “3-Paladin-Races”-Deficit at all?

From my perspective, both Horde and Alliance should have an equal amount of Races for each class.

Perhaps a CM can bring some Light in this topic, if they see this and respond.

However, I wonder what the main Horde players have to say about this. Let me know :wink:


Edit: Just to say it clear. I don’t say it IS a problem. I am just stating I don’t like the design decisions made here.

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It’s because the Alliance is more closely allied with the Light, genociding races who aren’t really. Belf pala women are very nice, and so are nightborne pala women, but let’s be fair - Lightforged draenei women are the best pala. They are the cutest and their footstep sound is the best and also the racial synergizes with paladin.

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Is that a try to compliment me? :stuck_out_tongue:

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I support your idea!

Yes Lightforged female are the Best.

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We are long overdue for orc and undead paladins.

The reason is that initially in vanilla Wow Paladin was an alliance only class and shaman was a horde only class.

In BC only 1 class could be paladin for Horde.

I didn’t bother to check but would tend to think that there are less races that can be shaman on alliance side than on horde side.

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They should never have added paladins to horde or shamans to alliance in the first place.

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Yep, horde has more options for shaman.

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May I ask why? Because that would mean I never would have ANY incentive to play Horde…

Nightborne druids are waiting in the line…

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Because restrictions to keep the lore good are healthy for the game. They should have kept the night elf druid restricted to male only and priest to female only as well imo

That’s BS. Restricting players from playing the way they want even more than now will only result in even less interest in playing the game.

I remember the days when Horde had Zero races that could play Paladins.

Honestly as a player with 3 Paladins myself, this really does not bother me. I think it’s better that certain Races are locked out of certain Classes, not just for the sake of Lore, just for the sake of it would be really boring if everyone could do everything.

The only exception is that I would like to play a Gnome Paladin.

The game’s got plenty of issues but race class restrictions ain’t one

I think they’re terrible.

why would you have one then?

Maybe for you and some others. But think about it… There is a reason why I never play Horde for Story/PvE or RP.

Instead of allowing the players to identify themself by own choice with both factions, Blizzard kind-off forces the players to identify with factions based on their character creation preferences.

I would never play an Undead. I would never play a Tauren. I would never play an Orc. I would never play Troll (neither Zandalari nor regular). I only have a Bloodelf Paladin on Horde side to unlock allied races… And Vulpera and Nightborn were the only interesting ones. Now, if I want to play a Nightborn I have to either play a class I don’t (really) like or not at all.

A game should not put me in a situation like this for most races.


Let me make an example…

Every Race on Horde can be:

  • Warrior
  • Hunter
  • Death Knight

Almost every Race can be:

  • Mage (exception Taurens) (10/12)
  • Rogue (exception Taurens) (10/12)
  • Priest (exception Highmountain Tauren and default Orcs) (10/12)
  • Warlock (exception Pandaren, Taurens, Mag’har, Zandalari) (7/12)
  • Shaman (exception Forsaken, Bloodelfs, Nightborn) (9/12)
  • Monk (exception Goblins) (11/12)

A few Races can be:

  • Paladin (Bloodelf, regular Tauren, Zandalari) (3/12)
  • Druid (Tauren and Trolls only) (4/12)

Only one Race can be:

  • Demon Hunter (Bloodelf) (1/12)

Now my preferences of classes…

The classes I like to play:

  • Paladin

The Classes I am ok with:

  • Death Knight
  • Warrior
  • Mage

The classes I rather don’t like to play:

  • Rogue
  • Hunter
  • Priest
  • Demon Hunter (not available for Nightborn ofc)

Classes I never played / don’t like by default:

  • Warlock

Classes I played once or have no specific opinion about:

  • Druid
  • Monk
  • Shaman

In conclusion means…

The classes I would play as a Nightborn:

  • Warrior
  • Mage
  • Death Knight

Since this Character is meant to be played both PvE and RP on Argent Dawn, this means the only Solution is Mage. I already have like 2-3 Warriors. I can’t play Paladin on Nightbore. And a Death Knight goes against of the requirements I want for the Character to fit in in the Roleplay-Aspect of the Character I have in mind.

This means, that out of 12 classes I can play 8 with the Nightborn, limited to 3 of my personal likings and to only 1 final result of class choice.

And while one can say that is totally fine to create such a “narrowing down” with the thought process when creating the character, the personal limitations and the restrictions of the classes result in a kind-off “forced” player experience.

In conclusion this means that Horde is in general more unattractive to me as a player because of…

  • Only 3 Races that suit my preferences in Appearance (female Bloodelf, Vulpera, Nightborn)
  • 2 of those 3 Races have fitting classes (Bloodelf, Vulpera)
  • Only 1 Race can chose Paladin as Class, considering the preferences in Appearance and Limitations

TLDR: Alliance offers more choice for classes I like than Horde does, resulting in ME being kind-off forced to play Alliance and making the Character experience on Horde for me almost unbearable.

After troll paladins give horde undeadd, orc, goblin and nightborne paladins. nobody cares about lore anymore :clown_face: design for :clown_face: consuuumers

Sucks to be you, those are the best ones :joy_cat: