Why does the Runecarver being The Primus make sense? It just seemed like lazy writing to me, but maybe someone here can fill the void?
“I’ll leave an echo of myself here so that you can still craft legendary items without the story being kaput…”
?? I thought the runecarver was the runecarver, he made the lich kings helm and mourneblades… so why is that the primus? Like how long has the Primus been chained?
It was pretty obvious that he was the Primus from the start. They literally called him a “legendary weaponsmith” and then while he is missing we find this mysterious Runecarver being chained up in Torghast with all his memories lost who happens to craft legendary stuff.
everybody knew the runecarver was the primus.
I genuinely laughted when he left the image of the runecarver shackled in it’s place, people may still need the runecarver services, lol, yeah with all these mawwalkers running around…
he also has recovered his memories now, so the mechanic of acquiring his lego memories to unlock lego powers should no longer be needed, he should just have the full list unlocked right?
shouldn’t we just be able to craft legos talking to primus in korthia? it’s not like he uses tools or a forge, no we still need to go to torghast to do it with an illusionary runecarver…
These are the questions we wake up in the middle of the night asking! 
The entire cosmic lore of shadowlands doesn’t make sense at all…the moment blizzard thought lets go cosmic, thats when the lore just went to the dogs… every aspect of lore feels so uninvolved, honestly i still dont know, why im aiding the covenents,… who gives a sh** if jailer is doing some shady stuff in another world… at this point, i even forgot what im doing in the shadowlands…
I thought everyone knew, Les Claypool is The Primus.
primus sucks.
Well that was my own speculation back in 9.0 so I’d say it was expected.
The primus was famed for being the greatest craftsman in the shadowlznds with an unparalleled mastery over runes.
He one day disappeared. Then in the Maldraxus campaign you learn that traitors baited leaders of the maldraxi in the maw and that’s how you save Morgraine. Would it really be that big of a leap that the leader too was baited into a trap or the law itself ?
Then a mighty craftsman who lost his memories, is jailed in the maw and happen to have crafted the LK’s armor, just coincidentally happens to be part of the storyline ? Too good to be true right ?
There’s also a certain resemblance between his statue in the covenant sanctum & his weakened state.
So yeah it kinda made sense.
That’s weird and I’d place my bets on it being a gameplay feature, doesn’t make any sense overwise.
Seemingly for decades, but the timeline is unclear.
What is clear tho is that the machinery of death broke in Legion, bets being on either Argus’s death (which smh shares a lot of art with SL & being at first named the titan of death) in 7.3 or around 7.1, after EN and perhaps around the events of the trial of Valor.
So we more or less have a timeline : He was jailed before W3, but it seemingly doesn’t take that long to craft a single set as the jailer made one for Anduin between 9.0 & 9.1, with the mourneblade being finished in a 9.0 cinematic iirc
This one wasn’t supposed to be a surprise.
What’s surprising is how ridiculously dumb our character is for not thinking about it for one second. Like hey, maybe this amnesiac legendary craftsman is your guy after all? Nope.
I mean I wasn’t surprised in the slightest, its not like I went “omg, no way!”. It was more of a “meh, okay.” And then the echo of himself being left was just laughable. Like why couldn’t we just talk to The Primus to craft the new legendaries. My guess is its something to do with the runecarver being instanced.
So true.
Blizzard need to STAY AWAY from the mindblow attempts and the timey-wimey stuff. They don’t have the kind of minds that can pull them off. To be fair, I’m not sure it can be done successfully in gameplay. In novels, yes. In movies … maybe? I have no idea how it could even possibly work in a game where the player character is a humanoid, with humanoid limits, doing humanoid things.
The Primus, one of the Eternal Ones, Master Tactician, Ruler of Maldraxxus and military might of Shadowlands doesnt have time for such menial tasks for some filthy peasants!
Why should he bother with us if he can leave is echo to do it for him?
It’s like trying to get your academic professor to finally upload exam resaults to the system or sign up some papers you need. They feel offended you bother them with such trivialities!
I honestly don’t know why they couldn’t just move the legendary crafting service to Korthia where the Primus physically is…
3 things about what you said.
1- I’ll leave an echo of myself part. That’s just horrible, but it’s gameplay, so i guess necessary. ish…
2- They mentioned time flows differently in Shadowlands and the maw. The maldraxxus people mentioned the primus being gone for a long time. Which explains things when it comes to how long he’s been gone and how he’s the one who made all those things.
3- Dude. This whole runecarver is the primus was extremely obvious from the beginning.
So we learn in maldraxuss that the primus is this ancient rune carving weapon forging genius who crafted so many legendary things, etc. etc.
Then we go to the maw, and see this guy who’s chained somewhere, Is as big as the rest of the eternal ones, doesn’t remember a thing, yet can create legendary equipment and everything.
I don’t see why you’re so shocked to figure these two are the same?
Id just like to clarify that I wasnt shocked at all. It has however been months since I did the campaign so I wanted some clarification a to why they were the same guy. Which I now have xD
I think it has something to do with “if the jailer wins, he will rebuild/shatter reality” … that also means Azeroth, btw. … But yeah, they could remind us of that a little more often… or give more relateable motives, like “the Jailer reforges/tortures souls to fuel his undead army; all souls still go to the maw, meaning your dead mother/friend/whatever is going to be destroyed, safe them”.
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