The survey say it as Tank , heal , dps. Which would make Bard like Monk with all roles, Tinker were also. Might just stay as survey whole thing, I would like to see some of it implemented as somehow but not as borrowed powers I hope 
Thats not at all what i meant you have taken my statement out of whack here, to set us off ill start by with telling you how the idea was even born.
Weâre talking back when tbc/ cata maybe mop but no later than was the expansion here, there was a blue post made saying the class worked guitar hero style meaning you had to hit notes with buttons to heal.
Do you see how thatd work bc i dont âŚ
Later on the following day they owned up saying it was a joke and not real the end⌠until nowâŚ
Im willing to bet one of the devs found that exact bluepost and thought yh why not.
The fact is this how is playing music ESO bard style supposed to be a dps class or a tank ??
Be realistic for a moment, i assume you saw the witcher tv show or better yet xena warrior princess both have bards in and in both shows which btw are nearly 25 yrs apart have bards that are non combatants bc how is strumming a guitar playing a flute or other wind instrument supposed to stop a wolf biting their faces offâŚ
Out of the classes mentioned the class that fits the mould the least is a bard ok.
You can say dragon this or that or a witch or holy lancer warrior they fit the game far more. Hell wow dont even have bards at the inns or anywhere in a city.
Its the wrong type of class bc it exists nowhere then suddenly we gnna have 300 of them running round strumming in raids citys abs 5 man dungs and such ??? Nope just no.
If it fits the demographic of the game then yes.
Ok bards should have been in wow as npc but theyâre not never have been and never should be that is why blizz used them as an aprils fool jokeâŚ
At best make a proff that uses music like black desert has that would work, as an actual class no⌠bards are not fighters in any capacity any movie tv show or other game depicts it this way.
Some things need leaving in the jar bc one theyâre out you cannot put them away.
Besides from what i read of the idea theyre support healer or âŚtank thats a severly bad idea off the bat.
Hows a guy singing supposed to be a tank mmm⌠seriously do they parry with a harp or a lute perhaps they use a trumbone or one of those little triangles l, ridiculas⌠it might work as a healer but would still look stupid, being healed by music is ludicrous.
If you think theyâd work go watch any movie thats warcraft like and you tell me if you see ppl following warriors round singing songs when theyre fighting.
Watch G.O.T does anyone have a bard ?? NO
Do you see daenryis with bodguard bard ??? Nope bc woot.
Ill say it short n sweet so anyone who reads this understands âbards as a classâ are just a bad idea.
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Tecnically not. Since the word Witch is gender neutral and Warlock means âOath Breakerâ someone who broke some vow.
Witch comes from Wicca (male) or Wicce (female). Though it is commonly associated with women due to an old catholic belief that a knowlegable woman was a spellcaster cohorting with demons.
So the word evolved to mean âspellcaster womanâ. Though you could easily call a male spellcaster âWitchâ.
Warlock is someone, like i said, who broke a vow. Usually a religious one. Think of a priest making deals with demons. Or more realistically, breaking his vow of celibacy. Thatâs a warlock.
And now thatâs a thing you know. A bit of useless trivia x)
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Iâm just tired of it.
I have waited for Tinker for 10 years now and i doubt we will get them.
They came up with Evoker which ok for those that like it, but it completely wasnât my thing.
I like the tech fantasy. Itâs a fantasy that is seen everywhere in WoW, but not by Itâs biggest gameplay system which is a class. Engineering has never managed to fill that niche nor can it ever or it would be OP.
Mechanical pets and mechagnomes are not what we are looking to either.
I want to tank, dps and heal as a tech class. I love the fantasy but i just canât do it in WoW and it grinds my gears, pun intended.
I just canât be bothered to look forward or discuss other classes when Tinker still isnât in the live game but it is on private servers. Like⌠what are we doing here?!
Very easy. Your music is so horrible that causes ear damage to the enemies.
Also itâs so bad that the enemy wants to break your lute first and focuses you, therefore you have aggro 
Vulpera and Dracthyr/Evokers were also brand new ideas without any lore existing (to the best of my knowledge) to establish them in the world beforehand. Werenât Draenei, and Void Elves also same situation? At the same time, entering many inns plays music that would fit that of a bard. We could essentially say that we donât see bards around because of technical limitations in showing many NPCs, but we can hear them play music in inns and other rest areas.
Howâs a Monk supposed to tank when they wear leather and equip no shield? Blizzard came up with gameplay elements to enable that.
Howâs a Demon Hunter supposed to tank on exact same situation? Same principle as above.
How come a class that wears better protection than leather and has a shield cannot tank? Because Blizzard hasnât yet added gameplay elements to facilitate that.
Itâs very easy to brainstorm random ideas and say that they now help with tanking. For example music that distorts the enemyâs ability to deal full damage to a player.
oh boy here we go, yet another monthly âwishlist of classesâ that everyone has decided must be trueâŚ
just check FF14 online game most of the classes u said is there
Vulpera are a race not a class, they share many animations with goblins idc bout a race ok rly ⌠you also tried uding evokers/ dragons which fit really well so sorry thats not gnna work here.
I suggest you do what i said then thonk with your brain b4 replying eith nonsense ok.
Bards wont work whats their weapon ?? Huh a lute ? Serioulsy hows music player supposed to tank ? The idea in insulting.
Stop being a perenial yes man and think bout it.
Im absolutly sll fot new ideas as long as they fit the narrative.
Again BARDS dont exist on the game in any context. You met the vulpera b4 unlocking them and DF was all about bloody dragons.
The next xpac is called midnight what about that name says bards are good ? How will they fit
Witches would bc midnight is the witching hour.
Oh btw monks are martial artists so thats how they tank⌠are you even for real ? Have you not seen a martial artist fight they dont need sheilds ect bc they can avoid most hits.
Look at batman hes a badass if therebever was one⌠guess what⌠hes a martial artist, i rest my caseâŚ
As for a bard tank using terible music to hurt enemies ears thats just stupid.
What if their enemy has no hearing how does it work then, nobody knows if any opponent on wow has hearing you simply assume they do.
Velf is a spinoff race not a class and again they make sense why ? Bc alleria was introduced in legion and shes the first velf you ever meet ⌠STOP using races to defend class wishes !!
Your trying to use good ideas to defend a whopping bad one. Iâd venture to say maybe 2 out of 10 ppl would want a bard class thats probably generous of me, obv you fit into the minoritory here which is your choice and your right, just the same as its mine to show why its just such a mistake to have them⌠they literally fit nowhere.
As i stated in my orgininal reply you could use bard skills the same way black desert does, which btw works and theres a player market for learning the piano on bdo msny times ive heard ppl banging out a finalfantasy tune at the market. Problem is ⌠its got not place in combat.
Like said before stop accepting whats said as a good idea just bc a dev says it might be.
Look at it analyse it pick it apart.
Trust me i can take anything you say bout bards or them tanking and turn it around to show why its a BAD idea ok you tried to use a dragon to defend them yh right⌠you tried to use vulpera and monks lol just stop please bc all those ideas fit the narrative 10000%
Bards donât fit i can promise you this if they use that class theryre gnna lose subs nobody wants bards your literally asking or suggesting they would be good⌠this why blizz used them as an april fools joke.
Let me ask you this a warrior, mage, pally and bard in a fight to the death whos the first one to die ?
Whos the winner bc its sure as hell not a guy or girl strumming love songs on a guitar now is it.
Do me a solid whilst your at it ⌠dont take what i reply out of context you did it with a well crafted post fit your own ends its bad form and toxic.
Well if we go by the âleakâ that op posted then itâs not just the common bard but someone that hears the song if the titan and is able to replicate and direkt thatbsong at foes and friends.
It would make sense for them to just appear cause the song has just started to be heard by powerful people. If the song grows louder there are maybe people amongst us that resonate with it and awake abilities.
Iâm not saying oh boy we need bards now but that would at least be a reason why they werenât seen before.
Your now trying to add special abilitys to the class the fact still remains that the athetics of wow are one where you should meet the occasional bard ok.
Its the type of scene in mind you wander into the inn in elwynn and theres ppl drinkin and a bard playing a tune maybe you meet them wandering down a road i dunno.
Problem is ⌠nobodys a bard ⌠so why has it taken til now to see them.
I mean ok powerful ppl hearing i get ya but being able to play takes time and practise, so again where did they come from noway they just picked up an instrument and bamm leet player that makes no sense, same as a titan warrior randomly appearing they surely must have already been a fighter.
Theres no epic intro story or other way to bring them in.
As for titan powered lyrics that idea makes absolutly zero sense, why ? Bc whyyyyyyy.
There are better options on the table for classes in the leak a witch would be cool af a holy warrior with titan power not a paladin is much better as choice itd be even cooler if you could convert existing warriors to use the titan infused power instead via a quest or smthin or turn your mage or lock into a witch.
But honestly why would anyone want a bard it just makes no sense.
The word maybe gender neutral now but thats modernist thinking.
Originally a witch was a female warlock however⌠in wow you have witches seperately to locks so we will go with that be it gender neutral or not.
Iâve said b4 and will say now gender has no place in a game, why ? Bc you can play what u like soooo based on that we need to drop identifiers and genders bc its not the real world.
If theyre maintained whats gnna happen is a fight on the forums in a thread based on new potential classes thats all thnks for reading.
Bard - a poet, traditionally one reciting epics and associated with a particular oral tradition.
I mean we do have metal bands in WoW and the lyrics are kinda like epics. Idk man we got evokers out of the blue, we get races out of the blue, why is bard the hill to die on?
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Well I like the idea of a person hearing azeroths song and understanding it and using it to give there spoken words some might.
You donât have to take the word bard to literal.
A bard wasnât only a sing with a lute. A bard can be a poet or someone that tells fantastic tales.
If we combine that with the azeroth song power stuff that I btw havenât come up with I just take it from op. Then I can see a class where the person empowers his words with azeroths power to affect his foes or allies.
Could be something interesting. My first thought was something like the curse speakers from jjk
TE falls for a simple clickbait aricle of aâŚnot so series german gaming magazin with very quetionable sources.
Some clases dint make sence like witch, or necomancer because its overlapps with existing classes (necomancer was for example canceld becase the death knight)
Gunsilinger woud overlapping with hunter
woud be, i read ist more like the witches of drustvar but still- taht overlapps heavy with warlock
Its not a hill to die on it makes no sense is all you just made the same error using dragons they literally have serveral xpacs to themselves so they didnt come from nowhere at all cataclysm was just after the evokers got forced to sleep, their story tells u this so it ties in, theier roots were laid in cata so yhâŚ
As for writing poetry hows that gnna help in a fight? Its not combat stuff thats the issue bards in any tv show or game dont fight theyre peace lovers not fighters.
The prime issue is the class makes no actual sense theyve got zero fighter skills by being a bard.
The problem is you think itâs just a song or just a word but when that word is enhanced by magic and makes your head go boom or your leg go knack that bard can use it in a fight just like any other form of magic
If its magic then is it a bard or is it a caster ??? The idea might work but not as a tank as a dps maybe.
What ur suggesting sounds more like spells which id say use the witch as a class for instead.
I cannot get behind the idea of ppl playing music at enemies to beat up or kill ot just makes no sense when u have ppl throwing fireblasts demons demon hunters and others wirh huge swords. To say nothing of literal dragonkin flying round.
I mean apart from novelty i cannot see bards being acceptable as a legitimate class.
Take the class im replying to you on, it literally casts lightning at targets its the thor of warcraft class⌠hows a bard supposed to compete with this stuff honestly.
I swear to God, if they donât materialize Bard, sooner or later, Iâll fLiP!
However a tank spec for Bard?! Iâm listening⌠
If you can commute with a rock to cast lightning whyâs commuting with your lute, or anything similar, to produce musical magic so foreign to you? 
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Warden as the third DH spec is the way. Would love it to happen if itâs at least mid ranged or someone like Red Mage from the-other-game, combining melee and ranged abilities together with constant tactical repositioning.