Literally at the mercy of your dps to win that matchup as hpala. If it’s a caster lobby it’s basically a guaranteed 0 6. So many lobbies I now played dropping from 2300 to whatever rating I am now because I honestly can’t be bothered anymore to grind out 3 3 and 4 2 games to climb again where it’s vs resto druid and you go 1 5 or 0 6 because dps don’t ever swap targets appropriately. They train the guy with full hots and expect a holy paladin to out pve heal a resto druid. The resto druid just sits back and laughs, spams his completely broken throughput with hots and then runs around bash cloning because he can. Doesn’t care about ccs becase, well, his targets heal themselves + treants (on top of that immune to poly and incap because reasons). Maybe if you’re a rank 1 player you can beat these mindless healers spamming 3 buttons but as a normal player who is learning the game you will lose many rounds to much worse healers simply because they play a completely broken heal spec right now. I’ve had games where the rdruid had over 20mil heal + overheal while I was tryharding (insert that guy sweating meme) to then lose the round and see 16mil healing vs 10mil. Enjoy your 40 min queues I’m out.
druid is above any other healer
Just play monk :^)
How will that help him vs rdruid if he struggles as hpal as it is? :d
Im pretty sure rdruid is here for the remaining few healers to quit, so blizz can remove healer role from pvp and nobody will complain. All calculated. It worked very efficiently on me.
I havent really played any srs solo in a long time.
I decided to give it a shot last night.
It might by fun if you played with highly aware people.
The way it is right now, dps at 2.1 (solo) have not the understanding how the different healers function.
Meeles lining a rdruid isnt nearly as gamebreaking as it is, if they line a hpal.
They push, use defensives early out of LOS to stay on target.
Now i have to compromise positioning to follow constantly. instead they could swich to a tanky target that is still in my LoS.
Rdruid toolkit strong hots mobility and good cc immun, will account for alot of positioning errors by unaware teams.
Same goes for casters standing on opposit sides of a pillar.
With hots rolling that is totally manageable, not ideal but you can make it work.
For the healers that actually need LOS most of the time, thats a nightmare.
Dps got to understand that the playstile changes drastically if played with different healers.
Hpal is in a really good spot, if played with good partners.
Rdruid is good with bad and good partners.
You will probably be able to push ratings, even now. Its just harder to get out of the unaware zone
Eh at least as Holy pala you get the flipside that you probably win melee-heavy lobbies.
Of course Rdruid is simply stronger in general but I’ve seen a lot of Druids lose a lobby heavily to Hpal if a lot of melees are involved
On some other healers like Prevoker, Hpriest and Rsham you are literally always at a disadvantage no matter what. Perhaps Rsham can sometimes pull through in a caster lobby, but generally when it comes down to healing itself every healer lags behind Rdruid.
I find MW stronger tbh. It can literally deal with anything while fighting against a druid all you need is at least one mate with an IQ of at least 20 and who understands “swap on hots”. Druids have to run a lot of mastery and drop their vers in order to have the op healing. Druids who don’t go full mastery can’t even heal until the second go.
Lul, i diden’t see this many hpala posts when hpala was broken beyond anything? Kinda funneh, ngl ;o
Hpal also got fixed within 2 weeks. Unlike other healers that had months of supremacy before.
Szdly i missed the two weeks of glory
I don’t believe they will change anything until 10.2 but from what I saw R Druid healing is being shifted from Treants to the Druid so actually CCing the Druid will do anything. H Paladin gets mana regen nerf so rip. MW Monk gets an amazing set bonus and some buffs so it’s a spec to watch. Holy Priest gets some nerfs to Mastery. Disc gets a rework and will pump. R Shaman finally gets a decent set. Regarding Prevoker - early season it was a top pick as it was ahead of other healers in healing but once they caught up he doesn’t have really good CDs and his burst healing every 10 sec playstyle isn’t enough to keep people up.
Considering I didn’t play during that time and only started playing again 1 month ago as well as this being my second season playing world of warcraft ever I really don’t care for what was or has been. I call it as I see it. The balancing is way off right now in many ways, not even gonna start on certain questionable design decisions. I started playing wow arena because I’m a really competitive person that likes climbing ladder in competitive environments and I figured out pretty fast that wow arena isn’t that. It’s very obvious that blizzard does not care about PvP, it’s design or competitive integrity, hence I stopped playing and would recommend others to do so as well. The game isn’t worth anyones time.
How not to love when 2 S rank healers point at each other which one of the them is more OP …
PS: People that say Hpally had only 2 weeks of glory and now its fine…you are out of your mind or just wanna presurve the broken state of Hpally for longer
broken in what? the highest level of play maybe? I would much rather have the 30% higher throughput of hpriest or rdruid than two lousy bops that do little to nothing in SS. Sure if you’re playing awc or 2800+ ss hpala might still be top dog but for a normie like me I couldn’t care less about the top 0.01% of players. Oh great I have double bop, really helpful when people take millions of damage by the time forbeareance has dropped again and they usually just switch targets and again I suffer at the hands of my lower throughput compared to other healers. Sac is supposedly op? Again do you think a wall with not even 25% uptime matters that much when people can’t disengage or play around gos and cooldowns. Great what am I supposed to do the other 75% of the time? But hey didn’t you see in awc hpally is still the best healer. Great, I don’t care.
Its kinda hard to answer to a player that doesnt have expiriance in the game to understand how powerful are his own abilities.I suppose you will learn with time.
PS:Btw you rerolled from your Disc to Hpally this season,i wonder why 
very objective analysis. I can at least bring out arguments, you not being able to counter them is a you issue and I don’t know what to make of your disc comment. For 90% of the time I’ve been playing it’s been f tier garbage. You think I rerolled disc when it was broken for 2 weeks? Guess again, I played it because it was fun.
PS: I rerolled to hpala because my first character was a ret and I didn’t want to level again, so that argument is also down the drain.
PPS: You don’t even play solo shuffle so your arguments are completely invalid. Go play resto shaman in SS. See how high you get.
It seems you dont know what Checkpvp is,as i said before,you dont have expiriance in the game,your arguments are no arguments,you talk things that you dont understand.
You played Disc DF S1 and now you changed to Pala S2…i didnt need answer from you,it was a retorical question about your reroll.I do play with my Rsham(you would of know i got 2 Rshams).Talk less and go learn how your class/spec works,use your time better,dont try to argue with players that are way ahead of you in the game
No I do know what it is. And considering you’re multiglad for at least all of shadowlands and dragonflight but stuck duelist in solo shuffle just proves my point. Your opinion is meaningless and all you do is make snarky disrespectful remarks and try to attack my person instead of staying objective and on topic. Or are you finally gonna start attacking my arguments instead of me? Also it’s spelled experience.
Dont care much about spelling(not my first language).I wont go against your arguments,people pay for such a teachings or eventually learn how the game works themselfs.RSS is a clown bracket that nobody care about achivements off it.I never tried to play seriously in RSS,this bracket for me is all about some practise and derusting.
Pointing that im multi glad and after that try to shame me for my RSS raitings just makes you look even more delusional.
If you just could use 1 min of your precious time and look in a total numbers of spec representation over 2400 in RSS you could easily see that Rdruid and Hpala are OP.
Ah there it is. That’s what I’ve been waiting for. You don’t like playing solo shuffle good for you. You have your dedicated group for 3s, again, good for you. But then don’t go talking about SS when you don’t play it. 3s especially with people you’ve been playing with for a while, which I assume is the case with you, has nothing to do with solo shuffle. You don’t have to deal with the randomness and insanity of solo shuffle and that’s great, you decide to play 3s, but then don’t go talking down to me about how I’m clueless about a game mode you don’t even play. People like you are the absolute worst. Elitist scum that just talk down to others because “hurr durr SS is a meme bracket, only 3s matters”. News flash, SS is way more popular than 3s and if you don’t have your dps that you play in perfect coordination with because you’ve played thousands of games and you don’t have to ask yourself if they’re gonna press their defensives or do their pve dps rotation properly or peel for you, then you shouldn’t talk. And you call me delusional. sad.
Oh also dead on 50% win rate at 2k rating in SS this season. Damn, almost as if being 8x glad and playing SS like you would play 3s gets you nowhere. I wonder why.
Also I’m not rating shaming you. I’m not delusional, I know you’re a much better player than me. Still doesn’t allow you to be disrespectful to me the way you were and talk the way you do.