Doesn’t matter
Immortality is also some kind of power for me, especially in warcraft.
Controlled by a titan, so hardly avoidable to resist to someone who destroyed the Pantheon.
Counter with Xavius. Point stands that Elves have done more evil to Azeroth and that they don’t show more wisdom since they all act like humans aswell, if not even worse through their addiction.
No way.
Go away.
Which was in itself, kind of forced. The Night Elves clearly aren’t that good at remembering their own history and why they do things.
Well, they kinda were, I mean they weren’t calling themselves Blood Elves yet, but there were definitely Thalassian Elves at Mount Hyjal…
It is only a stupid argument if you actually regard Elves as just being humans with pointy ears. I mean for goodness sake, there is a -reason- so many cultures independently had the concept of Elves long before modern fantasy writers.
Except it does. Because you see it changes their entire view on things, That’s what longevity -does- to people, if humans lived for only 20 years, I’d have had a vastly different personality and take on the world than I do now at 45 and still (touch wood) about half way through my life, That is part of the reason that the concept of ‘Elves’ has always been with us in our myths and legends, and that is why Blizzard actually did the bold thing of not making them just ‘goodies with pointy ears’ but actually beings who live so long that the rise and fall of human kingdoms is something they can set their alarm clock to, not be vastly worried about, and not even care that much about -until- it effects them. Blood Elves and Night Elves make perfect sense in their viewpoints. I might have a pet Hamster, and be fond of that pet Hamster, but I know it will grow old and die in a few years. Why should I care about some tribal dynasty of Hamsters (A bizarre idea I am trying to picture now) . Why should an Elf care for fleeting human dynasty’s? They are, if played right, entirely alien to our mindset.
(This in relation to mastering all schools of magic)
Actually they can’t. There is a canon source that described an Elven mage as being able to douse a candle with the wave of a hand, whereas a Human mage would simply blow up the candle. Human mages are described as having equal potential, but not equal control or finesse, because it is not natural to them, being an artificial thing taught by the Elves.
(With regards Intellect)
Actually. No. or maybe partially. When they did have such a thing as Baseline stats for races, which was during MoP, they did actually state them. Every race totalled up to zero in terms of what they could do, so it was all equal… Humans were Zero across the board. Draenei got a Zero on Intellect as well, as did Night Elves (Though they got a savage Agility stat boost, same as Forsaken with Spirit). Nightborne were not playable or even NPC’s at that point. Three Races got Base Attribute (Before even choosing a Class) bonuses to their Intellect. Gnomes, Goblins and Blood Elves. In each case +3.
Yeah, they pretty much are, but that’s what goes with being around for ages…more chances to mess up. I mean it is like people blaming the British Empire for Slavery. Its like “Hello? Pretty sure the concept of Slavery already existed, pretty sure in fact our own people were seized as Slaves (I mean, lets face it, St Patrick was a Slave taken from England, and there were no shortage of Briton Slaves in ancient Rome) , and also -which- was the first nation to say ‘This shiz is wrong?’” You’ll still get people whinging about Britain’s part in it. Those people need to be forced to read some history. Anyway, mild rant aside, So what, the Kaldorei did some stupid shiz ten to fifteen thousand years ago? So what? You’re looking at meta examples, not what Johnny or Jane Adventurer would know. You’re looking at things that happened before most of the NPC’s were -alive- or on the planet.
Who knows what type of emotion someone who has hit a plateau of a thousand years will feel? None of us do. Maybe we would cycle, and get irate about things. I know I am angrier about politics than I was ten years ago, why should that not apply to beings that live for ten -thousand- years. As to Tyrande being taught patience, that was by Varian Wrynn, come on, you can’t seriously use him as an example, St.Varian can do no wrong, He’s like the great Prophet Thrall. Both exemplars who knew far more than anyone else because of…uhh…stuff…and things…
Honestly. While my biggest wish of all at this point(alongside wanting more leather robes… cough), is getting a proper nightelven city and forest again, I do think racial cities need to matter a ton.
We should be able to pick whatever city we want to recide in, without losing out on features. It gives diversity and immersion, and it gives the world more dept.
Stormwind has ruined the Alliance, and I wish I could leave the faction and still be a nightelf at this point, just to get away from Anduin and Stormwind. I want Darnassus back. I want racial cities back, not one city controlling all. Stormwind was a cool place, until they destroyed it by making everything about Stormwind.
Ahh my apologies, I saw the double b and thought you meant something else. Apologies once again…
At my second job in Home Depot we sell a lot of those guys and they’re expensive but damn fine grills. I reckon you could easily fit a few nelf limbs on the grill and have a good tailgate party in Stormwind…
Vulpera, the pikeys of Azeroth.
Was it +3 for each race stated? Vanilla was such a long time ago… I’m fairly sure gnomes had the highest (due to 5% more int) which set them at 25, belves had 24 and goblins 23.
I know base stats aren’t “canon” but if used as a rough reference it means that gnomes are technically the smartest race (I wouldn’t dispute this) followed by belf, then goblins. No idea where nightborne would have been placed
My guess would be either same as belf or gnomes. I can imagine their start distribution would be similar to belf but with less agility and slightly more int and spirit. They don’t come across as agile, due to lack of utilisation mainly.
The stats were always whack though. Goblins apparently as strong as Nelf and tougher than gnomes, draenei, belf and Nelf. I mean I know in lore goblins are apparently ridiculously strong for their size, but still the idea of one being able to match a night elf in bench pressing is hilarious.
Also, pandaren super agile, with their sub par agility stat being slower than humans (wtf).
And spirit, well, whatever the hell it was meant to mean. Sheer willpower? Belief? Faith? It’s unclear. If willpower it makes sense the forsaken had such a shopping bonus, but no so much why belf had such a weak one. If faith, it makes little sense why the forsaken had such a big boost.
No, I mean the argument that “first of all cause they aren’t humans” stupid in general. Tolkien proves it wrong.
Except it does not in warcraft. There you can’t find many differences between the both races, but I guess it’s the reason of poor writing at this point.
Fair enough, but I guess we shouldn’t compare power levels at this point since it’s an area where we don’t have much knowledge about.
I really really would see these stats as canon cause it describes that goblins, blood elves and gnomes have more strength than Night Elves which can’t just be imo.
I agree with you that it’s a stupid kind of argumentation, but I saw no other way to argue with the guy before as to use his own medicine.
Stop trolling.
Wow elves came from trolls tho. A far more interesting race in WoW setting than elves.
Well, he’s a toddler so I’m not sure how much help he’d be, and his regents refuse to take their armies out of Ironforge in case the others seize control. 
That being said, Falstad actually is one of the Alliance’s mission table champions in BfA, so the C3H does have some representation.
Yes it doesn’t because he’s getting redeemed.
Except in this case, he was not going after power. He was going after something he already had, that was taken from him and he wanted it restored. He didn’t birth Teldrassil out of lust to gain power or anything, but rather to regain immortality. There was even a Night elf scholar and his daughter in MoP, who were searching for a way to regain immortality. Were they going after power too?
Do the immortal races have some kind of power over the mortal ones? Other than longevity that is.
And counter with High General Abbendis.
It’s very debatable. There are more evil individual Elves that have done evil things. But there have also been many times the Elves have saved Azeroth, especially when it was against a Burning Legion invasion.
Meanwhile Humans are a very young race so obviously, they haven’t had as many evil individuals. But the few individuals that became evil have had a huge impact on the story so far, like in the case of Arthas and Kel’thuzad and Medivh.
Also not all elves have an addiction.
Mailbox made you edgy 
NElves could make new major hold in feralas, valsharah or similar locations.
So says the space goat…
Wow what a well-thought-out argument.
We need a new NE capital tree, but made out of metal this time. The whole thing.
The other Nelfs are welcome to join us on Mardum. You’ve just gotta admit that we’ve sacrificed more than you. 
And that Lord Illidan knows the way!
Then the horde would somehow melt it on your face.